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+ 8 Results from test e, anavar, gw and aromasin, nolva, clomid. Before and after.

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I lifted for years then stopped in college. All natty btw. Got married, had children, army, got out, career then decided death was going to inspire me to be positive and self aware.

Second set of pics are my "bulk" 80% clean diet eating 1k over maintenance.

Anyways, first picture is before and after natural. I lost 40 pounds with diet and full body training 3x a week. Strength and everything plateaued so i started reasearching gear for almost 2 years. I decided to go off of advice from a well known member in other forums. So a simple test e 500mg was what i did. Mon and Thurs rotating glutes.( did delts and ah heck naw).

My first historical injection went smooth with 1ml of test e. 1 inch 21g for draw then 1 inch 23g for injection. It was painless, next few days i forgot i even did it. No pip. I started aromasin .25 eod on the fourth week just because i had already started pre cycle bloods with high estradiol. Week 4 was........AMAZING. i started getting insane shoulder pumps in the gym and my physique was changing while i worked out! It was surreal. I literally couldn't do more then 3 sets of shoulders because of the pump. I set new prs on everything i had been stalled on for the past year natty. I was gaining 3 pounds a week fresh out of bed.

14th week i started pct.
Clomid 50 mg ed for first two weeks
Nolva 50mg ed first two weeks

16th wk
Clomid 25mg for two weeks
Nolvadex 25mg for two weeks

My pct was not fun at all but the boys came back and i kept my strength and lost about 10 pds.

My thoughts after my first cycle.
Pretty sure gear was legit, i had crazy pumps, i had prs on everything, even my libido lol. The wife couldn't get enough. Sense of well being was awesome.( placebo or not)

Gear was shipped to my door 6 days after order on Sat.

My negatives

I wish the pills could be easily split.
AIs, nolva all looked the same. Could be easier for me to arrange.

Thats it.

Last pic is from blasting again with test e and anavar for 6 weeks before personal trauma happened. I did push, pull, legs 2x a week. I then cruised varying from 1ml to .5 ml a week. Diet went to crap but has cleaned up after a couple months of getting back on track. I can't say the anavar did alotfor my strength. It definitely made me veinier. Fullness all day.

While cruising i kept making visual gains but my weight stayed the same. Ive veen cruising for 4 months now and im much happier with low dose test e and working out. Its nice to know i can make slow but great gains cruising on this gear! Pics speak for itself!

Have a blessed day brothers and sisters. Feel free to ask any questions!

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ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

Don't cruise man, not this early in life unless it's completely medically required by a Dr. prescription. Long-term use doesn't just increase the likelihood of experiencing side-effects, it also increases the list of possible side-effects that can be experienced. Prostate problems are far more likely the longer you stay on cruisin for years and years.

Adverse effects of testosterone replacement therapy: an update on the evidence and controversy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4212439/

Muricanokie's picture

Good find! The study has mixed results. Some cases were done with low increase chance in prostate cancer than the normal population and a a couple were high. Alot of these studies were done on older men but good find nonetheless. Thank you brother!

Keepmovingforward's picture

I know it’s hard to hear when you are seeing results and feeling good but I’d really take it into consideration and come off for a bit. It’ll be harder to go on weeks of vacation as well. Just really think about it.

Muricanokie's picture

I decided to come off, pct and come back to post about it later down the road brother! Even though i have no intentions of having anymore children, the research, studies and your wise wisdom have brought me to do a proper pct! Thank you everyone!

roly420's picture

Unfortunately, with that body transformation, his ego must be real high. Which isn't really a bad thing. Happens to all of us, I think. But combined with the idea of trt is just dangerous. You hear a lot of us that have messed up our endo system through irresponsible cycling when we were young, but to intentionally do so it just leaves me shocked. Bodybuilding is a beautiful sport, but people like this are what gives or world(bodybuilding) such a bad stigma. Makes the naive believe that we are doing something wrong. When it's really the best decision one can make when done right. I'm one that fucked up really young. But when it happened to me, you can be sure i did everything to try to bounce back. Numerous doctor visits. Clomid treatments, hcg(which went real bad for me. Ill never take it again.) Just to hear my doc basically tell me I'm screwed and forget kids in the future. 10 years later, and it still kills me just to write this. And yet this guy wants all this on purpose?!? I don't get it.... I really hope he doesn't....

Muricanokie's picture

Thank you brother for your criticism! I appreciate everyone taking the time to throw opinions out there. This is a great community. I've decided to pct as we speak. I have everything for 2 pcts. (Better safe than sorry right?!) Have a blessed day brother!

roly420's picture

Stories like this is why I love this site. When we can influence others to make better decisions using our past negative experiences for positive. Be safe my friend. Sometimes we gotta be a little rough(sorry for that) to get through. I'm glad we all did get to you. Well deserved +1

Muricanokie's picture

No worries brother, i don't take things too personal but i do look at the positive side of this and thank you for taking your time out to contribute. I see a lot of threads here that i feel like people could address their own opinions in a different manner but hey we all are a work in progress!

Pale's picture

You are a little young to cruise bro. And yes PCT is tough mentally but you made it through a cut you will survive PCT. Don't toy with the idea of TRT for another ten years bro. It is a lifetime decision. You can avoid ten years of bi-weekly pinning.

Muricanokie's picture

Thank you for the advice brother! I'll definitely take it into consideration after this next blast.

IrishMack's picture

No more cruising and blasting seriously. Take time off so you can reboot your system. You do realize when you go on trt that this great feeling you have will not be there right? You will have to replace only what your body didnt produce so you can be NORMAL. I gurantee your "cruise" is actually a cycle.

Muricanokie's picture

Yes i do brother! I'm considering a pct! It'll be interesting to see what i can keep so i may come back and post some real time data for others to witness since my diet is pretty well taken care of. I feel like some may skip out on this and don't realize the importance.

IrishMack's picture

You will be thanking all of us for not cruising and doing pct. Pinning all the time may seem fine now but after a few years you get real sick and tired of it, ask someone who has to take insulin all the time and they will tell you.

rageracing's picture

You really think you needed gear for this?? Diet and cardio would have got the job done.

rageracing's picture

Of course its night and day.....he was very overweight when he started the cycle. I just dont think you need gear to get to where his is now. His AFTER would have been a nice syarting point gor his 1st cycle

Muricanokie's picture

I wish it were the case but i could only diet for so long. Cutting and keeping muscle is something I've learned is extremely difficult given my circumstances and day to day life. Cruising is logical to me. Thats just my own experience and opinion. I have 3 natty years under my belt and I'm not getting any younger! DIET was the only important factor to me during this change. I've done alot of experimenting and i made this choice and I'm content with it brother! Stay tuned!

IrishMack's picture

I have a question, why are you cruising? You just did a pct and recovered, now you decide to never come off? 31 years old too. I would have plussed tou bit your decision is not too bright.

Muricanokie's picture

Well i really appreciate the criticism brother. All info welcome. I made a decision since my pct did not psychologically go well. I don't plan on having anymore children and its a well thought out choice i made because of the well being i experienced and libido just from cruising. I lost a bit during pct and crusing I'm actually still gaining.

IrishMack's picture

So not even for a second you thought that being overweight amd eating shit food had nothing to do with your lack of.libido or low energy? You are making a really dumb decision. Every 3 months you need bloods, then you need pharmaceutical ai, then you need pharmaceuticl test because ugl is not always 100%. Youre on the road to nowhere. You are becoming psychologically addicted. Then again it doesnt matter what anyone says you know best.

Muricanokie's picture

I never had a lack of libido brother? My diet is where it needs to be as far as my daily life is concerned. Its %80 clean foods and its working out great! It worked out good for me naturally, it just took some time and patience. I realize I'm only human and i have a life so experimenting with my diet and training was fun and i found a good starting point for myself. I really appreciate your input!

Muricanokie's picture

I had no idea! Thank you brother!

Manshit's picture

Good work brother.I used cyp and var the same way and loved the results.+1 brother

Muricanokie's picture

Thanks brother!

House's picture

Great progress my dude. I wouldnt have done var with test e but everyone has there way they like things. +1 remember to review on the source page and vote.

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Muricanokie's picture

Thanks! How would you have stacked the var?

Greengravity's picture

X2 ^

My guess, the added water weight where as a lower dose prop and var would dry out more?

Muricanokie's picture

Well i always have this extra belly weight and i read somewhere that a bit high estradiol can be related to it.