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So started my cycle like two days ago at 196, somehow I’ve managed to get leaner the past couple weeks, while not dropping weight so that’s cool. My original goal was 220 but I know I won’t be able to do that until my digestion is absolutely perfect. So I think a more obtainable goal would be 210, even that may be hard while having to stay right around 3200 calories. Just making this post so I have a documented starting point.
Test E- 1000 Masteron P-420 NPP-350 HGH-8ius
These doses may change, hgh may come down when I change brands next month, I haven’t really used NPP in years so that might go up or down depending on how it goes, if I pull it out, Mast will go up

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No, I’ll try and do it today. Holiday weekend and I live in a tourist place so it’s like gridlock out side right now. And mail won’t move for two days so we’ll see but I need it asap

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wanted's picture

Thats A big boy cycle right here. Make us proud man
You win WE ALL WIN !!!!! »

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Actually got a question for you Mr.Masteron. I’ve never pushed the test this high, but I have ran Masteron at 600 before, so do you think i should have the masteron at atleast 600 or more, or just a it ok to run it here?

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wanted's picture

First id like to say dont get caught up on that scale you have an opportunity to have a great physique I SAY PHYSIQUE trust me you will never be out at a bar / beach/ bqq and some chick asks your weight!!! Shes gona see you and be like fuck this guys got it—-
Ive never ran test that high either but 600 masteron is no problem or sides for me , if i had any room in my barrels id go 800 mast one day. But but 600 is good enough for now , maybe npp up to 4-500 and test 750-8. There are alot of high test guys. But i love synergy …. the npp i feel we need for comfort and to kick ass in the gym and shouldnt effect digestion any
I hope you keep a log and updates cause im interested in the way this plays out Great luck man kick some azz

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Thanks man, and I know I do get caught on the scale a lot, but I’m learning that it’s not everything BUT my long term goals are to be as big as a house so it does kinda matter, can’t be a house at 190 lol but I look better at this weight now than I did at this same weight 6 months ago, so there’s definitely more than just scale, but also if you look I have the mast at 420, and was wondering if it should be at 600 since I was there before

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You want that sort of size then you have to be able to get the calories in. How’s your digestive issues at the moment? What’s the medical opinions on it? You definitely have the frame to be HENCH you just have to find away to make it possible to get the calories in. The truth is guys who are truly massive are taking a lot more gear than they let on they are but no matter how much gear you take without the surplus calories your not going to hit the big as a house scale. Eating can become a pain in the arse literally, I feel like I spend half my life either eating , prepping food , shooping for food or shiting it out

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Digestion is much better, it’s no longer painful which is huge. Even when it’s ok, I don’t push it too hard because then that starts all the trouble. So just kinda cruising at around 3200 calories is enough to keep me from shrinking and not to much where my stomach gets fucked. And I still haven’t gotten it checked out, when I ever say I’m going to, it’s seems to clear up so I don’t go. But no matter what I have to go this week, I have to just do it!

And yes calories are 100% the answer. I did a cycle a few months ago and around then is when my issues started. I was on test and tren and gained zero pounds cus I couldn’t eat and cut the cycle short. So for all the new guys, you can take tren and gain absolutely nothing! It’s not magic lol

But for real I can gain a pound a day if I just sit there and eat and eat. I really wish I had forced it back when I didn’t have stomach trouble, instead of being a pussy about my appetite. But for this cycle I know I can’t push the food too hard cus it will just set me back further, so I have to stay at just a tiny surplus and gain slow, it’s better than nothing. And if I get my stomach fixed, than best believe im eating a horse

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The Never ending supermarket trip ..... Gets to the point of buying 3 of everything so you don't have to go in as much.

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My girl cringes when I say “dinner” or “grocery store” and I do the cooking lol. I get a better reaction to “sex” and “steroids” Lmao

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press1's picture

Leave it at 600 would be my view.

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Ya but if you notice up top I have it lower than 600. It’s at 420, but since I’ve done 600 before do you think it would be kinda a waste to be going lower than where I’ve been before

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Rosschestzip's picture

There 100mg amps. How would you dose that? One a day 6 days a week plus one day off?

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wanted's picture

i use a cutter mix has the mast P in it so 350 aweek but i add MAST E twice aweek to bump the total mast dosage you could add mast e or take that one day off using all your mast p

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I can't really answer that for you mate, the way I see it is you have upped the Test and will put on extra weight via that. Are you wanting the potential extra strength and hardness that 180mg/wk of Masteron MAY bring you? If you think its worth it then up it. I think trying to sort out digestion and finding a protein powder solution is the most important right now, upping gear as much as possible in the meantime may bring its own extra set of problems.

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I’m actually using it for the estro control and so actually I’ll probably just gauge it that way. If everything seems fine that I’ll just leave it and if I’m noticing sides I’ll up it.

Btw walking into buy that protein right now

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wanted's picture

Which protein

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Dymatize hydrolyzed, hopefully it digests like baby food lol

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wanted's picture

Thats funny thats what i have. The cocoa pebbles flavor. Should digest well. I ALSO USE
MUSCLETECH ISO CLEAR WHEY
It has bromelain & protease included for digestive enzymes

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I take all the digestive enzymes separately in this pill. But it was very very cheap, ghetto brand. It worked very well at first but I might have gotten used to it or not dosed properly idk?

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wanted's picture

Yhea bet. Theres alot that goes into it
Meal timing , then other things besides pills
Id love to hear your diet one day and go through some things.
If we all take alittle info from one ANOTHER we will all be BIG MOFO’s

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Yessir I learn tons just in these little convos. Speaking of meal timing, maybe you have some knowledge on this. So it seems that 99% of my digestive trouble is at night. Late at night my stomachs gets really bloated right after protein shake, then all night it’s like it’s not digesting, I wake up periodically in pain and pressure and the pressure won’t come out as a burp until I stand up. And it still happened last night with no protein. And it starts before I lay down so I don’t think laying down is 100% the issue. Have you ever heard of something like this

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wanted's picture

Whats your meal before the protein shake

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So like 6-7 I usually have chicken breast and golden potatoes and a biscuit. 7-9 I sip on Gatorade, it’s the powder so I make it a little strong so it has more carbs than regular Gatorade.
Gym at about 9-10 drinking more of my carb loaded Gatorade during the workout.
10pm protein shake
10-11:30 nothing to eat before bed usually, maybe I’ll have Frosted Flakes or a chocolate protein bar then go to sleep. Around 11 my stomach feel really bloated and full of cement. When I wake up at 2,4, and 6 it also feels this way but now it will also have a lot of air with it but I only can burp it out if I’m standing. I still feel this way at 6:45 when I wake up but it’s usually gone by 7:30

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@Rosschestzip Out of interest did you have the usual Protein bar last night with the new shake mate? If they are not high quality ones it could quite easily be that turning your guts inside out and bloating you - I have never found a bar that digests well in me. For that reason I never use them even though I like them.

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No but I did have it the night before when I had no shake and I was thinking that may have been what had me messed up that night. So cut those out for now. They are so fucking delicious tho, I eat them like candy, I seriously could live of them

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press1's picture

So leave it out for tonight again, have the new shake. See how you feel. If you are okay then have both the protein bar and new shake tomorrow night then see if the problem starts again.

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I might leave it out for a few days, I might have to really get down to basics here , like eggs and tuna all day or something

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wanted's picture

Whats the meals from 730 an till pre workout meal 6-7 @Rosschestzip

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Oh gosh uhmmm garbage lol but so the last couple days I’ve just eaten anything but as of a week ago it looked like this.
Somewhere between 7-830- protein bar
830am 3 bowls of Frosted Flakes and protein yogurt. Fiber drink which is 30g carbs
1030ish- protein,oat flour, milk, and pb shake
1pm- tuna and 3 slices toast
3- chicken fried rice (my girl brings home a big tub of this from work and I’ll nibble on it through out the day also)
5- more Frosted Flakes maybe? Or maybe more rice

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wanted's picture

Holly shit. Like a human garbage disposal. Yikes Well hopefully the new protein powder works out better man. Keep kicking butt

press1's picture

What Flavour did you get Ross?

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I only get chocolate but they didn’t have it so I got cookies and cream. It’s pretty good, we’ll see how my stomach is in a few minutes

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@Rosschestzip So whats the verdict then - any issues?

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No, smooth as silk. BUT I usually don’t have issues in the middle of the day like this, so tonight will be the real test. either way I’m gunna probably keep using it, it didn’t make me feel full at all, it’s very “light” if you know what I mean

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This is what I've been telling you mate!! You've been livin in the Stone Ages with all this concentrate and casein shite LOL Things improve, get better over time Good

Do yourself a favour though and don't go to bed as soon as you have drunk it, leave it 15 minutes to have a fighting chance of digesting Lol

wanted's picture

Hey press do you have him on bargs apple
Cider vinegar, glutamin , santa cruz organic lemon juice, pineapple

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Never heard of that mix bud. I have done the whole pineapple chunks routine before to get the stomach acid going, but it just felt kinda weird to me and didn't really take to it.

Rosschestzip's picture

I thought apple cider vinegar slows digestion? I bought some of that same brand too but than read that it slows digestion and helps maintain blood sugar that way, so I didn’t take it

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wanted's picture

They debunked that theory, There are so many benefits, research it again. Helps breaking down your protein , helps with muscle( stomach ) cramps,
First thing am i take 1 tablespoon mixed with 1 tablespoon santa cruz lemonjuice, and 1 scoop glutamine add water. Some have read donttake
Glutamine with acid juice BUTT they dont have our problems …

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Good lol cus I want something to help lol and I’d think acid would help break things down faster not slower. And one theory is that I could actually have low stomach acid cus I get heartburn a lot so I thought I had too much acid but you can also get it from too low

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wanted's picture

Do you mix your with cream of rice or oatmeal

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No, recently I had just started mixing my protein with peanut butter and oat flour to make 800 calorie shakes but I can’t be doing that anymore

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wanted's picture

Thank god thats over. Lets get some good shit into that body. Digestive wise

Look ive done oatmeal forever (quaker) not the cheapest. I worked hard with a coach for my issues
Through quaker oatmeal out the house BOUGHT bob’s red mill old fashiones rolled oats with 1& 1/2 scoops iso whey dymatize — WHAT A FUCKING DIFFERENCE i was completely amazed. And theres so much more we changed and lets say WANTED IS NOW a guy who has NO toilet paper needed SHITS

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Good Good Good

wanted's picture

Bump the npp @press1
This is the shit that gets me EXCITED fuck genetics HARD FUCKING WORK and some higher reasonable dosages …. And get this guys diet right. LIFE IS GOOD

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Hell Yeah!!! 700mg/wk for Ross LMAO

I thought being in the US there would be some kind of Gym groupie chicks that only fuck guys who weigh at least 250lb's?!!

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Nah, no one likes use muscle heads lol. Especially now a days, they like little fem-boys

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wanted's picture

The 10’s fuck those dudes. I (we) get all the rest

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The size 10's or 10/10's??!! LMAO

I like the size 6 and 8's but I think our measurement system is different over here