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So I don't even know what to think with everything going on regarding ultima. First of all my source is taking care of the 13 vials of bad cyp I got. Today I was going to start the EQ cycle just to open up the 4 vials that were actually supposedly good from that shipment and I look and the color is so off in the vials. Like way different. Not sure if that means under or over dosed or just completely bunk. I have been doing gear for 15 years and never ever questioned shit as much as nowadays and I hate it.
What is truly weird is that these are the same batch numbers. Really strange. Another guy responded and said he got 4 vials too and 3 are dark one light from his ..
I know eq comes in liquid form as raw ... But I just want okay stuff to run my cycles lol this is getting out of hand and I don't have money to just send shit out for testing non stop
What do you guys think ?

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Bill1976's picture

Type in boldenone Turning brown while brewing into oil in googles AI

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

EQ raws are liquid at room temperature also. And they look pretty much just like that vial all the way to the right.
If they used diff carrier oils for diff vial that could change the color at the end drastically also.
Allot of possibilities. As much as Para had diff color oils with the same batch numbers you'd think people would be past that.. lol. But with the other shit going on i get it.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Any compound brewed too high or for too long will oxidize and become darker the longer it's cooked.

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BigDdaddy's picture

One thing I notice here is it looks like they have the cheaper paper labels. My Pharmacom gear has glossy labels on it. Assuming maybe they switched. I got mine last year.

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Osgear's picture

We've asked Pharmacom Labs about this and there is no need to worry. Is a matter of brewing. Even if is the same batch, they brew multiple times and this can lead to different oil color nuances. This doesn't influence the quality in any way.

Yourmamma69's picture

Thank you so much for asking from them that makes me feel better I started with the lighter oil yesterday and I'm still here so we are good lol

BigDdaddy's picture

That's what I was thinking may have happened as I said below. I've seen this happen many times and never known Pharmacom to not be good. Honestly, I think that's what happened with the whole Para "Golden Testos" despite their claim of new raws on the market because if you've noticed they are back to their normal color now. Most likely they didn't wanna say it was brewed too long or too hot because people would then flood them with questions asking whether it damaged the product. It doesn't damage it tho.

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Bill1976's picture

I got some of this on the way. I’m hoping this is not an issue. I been using oharmacom for 7 years with no issue. It’s one of the only sources I use.

BigDdaddy's picture

Could be the same batch of raws used for multiple brews and one of the brews was heated longer causing the color to become darker. Only thing I can think as I've never seen this from Pharmacom.

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irongame427's picture

I know they say the same batch number, but they are clearly different brews. Batch numbers and all that are pretty meaningless with UGL gear. Only data point that’s semi important is date it was manufactured. Gear definitely loses potency over the years. I ran some 10 year old unopened oils that were stored in a climate controlled dark place but it was still noticeably weak.

It’s probably fine. Only someone who’s ran those different colors can confirm Forsure.

Yourmamma69's picture

I know I wish someone had input of running either darker or lighter or both lol. Because the mfg dates and everything are the same

BigDdaddy's picture

I've ran dark and light bro. Sometimes the only difference is one was heated longer or at higher temp than another causing it to be darker. I'm not saying that's the case as I don't know, but Pharmacom is usually solid.

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Nitrake's picture

I got 2 of these on the way because it was my only choice as a refund from bunk. It was either pharmacom or ultima, beglias and nakon that was all the choices I had. Hope its good idk

Riot28's picture

I just got 2 bottles of this EQ and I was really surprised when they looked like your middle vials. The only EQ I've had in the past was a VERY pale yellow color. With everything going on in the gear world I think we're all just hoping for the best at this point

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Bill1976's picture

I’m annoyed with this steroid thing now. I hope I got real EQ.

Yourmamma69's picture

Oh trust me me too ! This is ridiculous and have 13 vials of cyp from pharmacom coming fml

HapaBoy83's picture

Had 4 Cyp come along with our multi colored EQ lol. I’ll check and post a pic in OS thread if they are odd shades. Don’t think I can add pics in this thread.

Yourmamma69's picture

Lol fking fifty shades of gear lol

HapaBoy83's picture

Probably going to be 3 light and 1 dark this time so I can complete the set lmfao

Yourmamma69's picture

At least they should run an event where whoever finds a darkest vial from the same batch gets something extra for free lol. Like the golden ticket from chocolate haha

Skinnyboy63's picture

This shit's getting ridiculous buddy

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Bill1976's picture

Fuck I just ordered EQ from them. I ordered domestic. Where did you order?

Yourmamma69's picture

Mine came international... I actually ordered ultima originally but they sent this lol

Bill1976's picture

I orders domestic. One vial to hold me over Til my other brand came. I always likes this brand and now I got to give it up.

Littleginger's picture

Sooner or later people are going to realize these batch numbers don’t mean shit. I buy boxes with batch numbers lol.

Bill1976's picture

Yup . Batch number are just there for show

Gotem69's picture

Lmfao I like when dudes cry about labels ohh the label looks cheap

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CHIMAIRA75's picture

Dude, like 2 years ago I grabbed up a few vials of t400 from a source gone now. A dude at my gym room I've gotten the same t400 for asked for one. Well the source ran out of labels so he just wrote the t400 on a blank label. Same vial, same cap, same fire shit.
Dude was like, can I get someone with a label? I snatched that shit out of his hand and told him to fuck off. Some ppl's kids bro

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Min Diesel's picture

Some of the best shit i have every gotten had sketchy hand written labels or a sticker that said 2
C250 etc, or even no label, once upon a time.

Gotem69's picture

Lmfao i believe it bro

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Pumped_'s picture

And some of the bombest stuff dont verify with the scratch and sniff. I dont even bother scratching and getting those shavings on my furniture. Better be a winning lottery ticket if im scratching

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Gotem69's picture

Haha ultima cough cough..

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Milfpounder's picture

Lol looking thru pics on here from yesteryear dudes used to pin some pretty questionable looking shit. Like gear showing up in old dish soap bottles n such.

Gotem69's picture

Lmfao the ole dawn anabolics I'll pass

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Min Diesel's picture

I heard of it coming in like 1ml packets before. Like “yes please can u package this up in the most inconvenient way for all parties involved” lol

Milfpounder's picture

Hahahaha we got it pretty good nowadays. Other than all the fake gear but I think it's always been a thing with ugl

HapaBoy83's picture

Guess another way to look at it is I got opposite 3 dark and 1 light. If we flipped the one off vial we probably wouldn’t even pay much attention since all the same color lol.

Jockstrap's picture

Heat difference. Send it here and I'm pinning it

Yourmamma69's picture

So if I got no money for testing what do I do just risk it for the biscuit ? Lol fml

Pandateston's picture

Interesting… Funny enough, my PP 500 bold came a bit darker and Deca 300 is Tren-dark too lol

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Gotem69's picture

Got some npp from a source that's raw tested and final oil tested and it's yellow I trust him 100% also I just think raws are weird rn especially if they are coming from India I've seen different eq several times now

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Pandateston's picture

Bro, gotta agree with you on that. The raw market is kinda messed up right now … hard to know what’s really what unless you test it yourself. Labels don’t mean much these days.

I’ve noticed the same thing with raws coming out of India lately too… they tend to be darker for some reason. Not saying they’re bad necessarily, but it’s definitely something that’s been popping up more and more across different raws.

That’s why I stick with labs that have been consistently reliable. PP has been pretty solid in that regard from everything I’ve seen.(Pharmacom also had been solid over the years…)

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Gotem69's picture

Definitely agree with this 2 labs being sold

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BigDdaddy's picture

I think a lot of these labs were actually getting finished gear and claiming to get raws. Since the shortage many had to source raws where they could find them and are now brewing themselves so there's a learning curve because most of what I've seen as far as the darker stuff just looks like it was due to heat temp or duration.

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Gotem69's picture

You already now the deal big dog gotta stick with the good guys it's a bad time to try our new sources

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thorny's picture

On each vial label, there should be a scratch off silver part that underneath has a verification code, which you can take back to the official pharmacom dot com website to check. (do not use the dot ltd site). Does each have one, and are each showing as valid? If the three light colored oils check as valid, but the dark one is fake, boom there is your answer.

Also, each vial should have, within the glass itself, a blue pharmacom logo (three stripes). Looks like at least 3 of them have it, but you'll want to confirm that, too.

Heartbreaking to think pharmacom is also falling victim to this nonsense...

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Littleginger's picture

Not saying they are guilty of this but my buddy used to be in this business and they set up a fake website to do your verification so I wouldn’t put to much weight on that.

TheOGof93's picture

there's three sites that look identical, one is legit and two aren't. Pharmacomlabs.com I believe is the legit one and the Pharmacomlabs.ltd and Pharmacom-labs.net are the fake ones but they look identical.

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Littleginger's picture

Personal just wouldn’t put any weight in them . Like I said my guys did this and they were on a much smaller scale. But we are all entitled to our opinion and if you trust any of them then all good brother . Either way hope it’s good