+ 7 Pharmacom bold 300 different colors
So I don't even know what to think with everything going on regarding ultima. First of all my source is taking care of the 13 vials of bad cyp I got. Today I was going to start the EQ cycle just to open up the 4 vials that were actually supposedly good from that shipment and I look and the color is so off in the vials. Like way different. Not sure if that means under or over dosed or just completely bunk. I have been doing gear for 15 years and never ever questioned shit as much as nowadays and I hate it.
What is truly weird is that these are the same batch numbers. Really strange. Another guy responded and said he got 4 vials too and 3 are dark one light from his ..
I know eq comes in liquid form as raw ... But I just want okay stuff to run my cycles lol this is getting out of hand and I don't have money to just send shit out for testing non stop
What do you guys think ?
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The first one is their verified legit site, it's been verified. But yeah people definitely need to watch out for those kind of things.
yeah isn't that the LTD site that is fake?
the COM website is supposed to be the legit one - confirmed by several sources
I’ve been using Pharmacom for quite some time now, and up until recently, everything I received was slightly yellowish in color and excellent quality. However, the latest batch arrived dark—it seems they are using a single batch for everything, just as others have posted here. They really are using the exact same batch across their entire product line. I haven't injected any of the darker product yet, though some users have reported experiencing pain when using it. This applies specifically to the Sust 300. I haven't sent any samples off for testing yet either; however, I’m expecting to receive another 10 vials of Test E 300 next week. I’m thinking about having both batches tested before I use them, but I don't have any experience with the process of sending samples to Jano.
I mean sending samples isn't hard they will walk you through it. But just because multiple liquids are dark doesn't mean they are all the same thing. I have deca and bold that are as dark as my tren. So it really depends on the raws and whether the batch is overheated or heated for too long will change the coloring as well.
I mean.... Once you go black....
I have some pharmacom NPP that showed up almost identical in color to the dark one. Took some convincing myself, but I eventually started on it and other than the unbridled rage I sometimes feel on npp, seems gtg. Plenty of gains out of it. Hope that helps.
Darker the berry, the sweeter the juice
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I know I just am wondering if it's the right stuff I wouldn't be worried if all of them were dark lol but the fact that only 1 is and other not makes me wonder lol especially same batch
Yea. It definitely is weird.
You are right to worry. Until this ultima thing noone really checked bottle level differences and color differences and now we are paying attention to it we are realizing how often now. Scary. I never checked and now im scared to line my bottles up because it will eat at my OCD and ill lose sleep lol
I have lined up different vials from Pharmacom and they were all identical. Of things are changing the this sucks I love my gear
Well on this shit color was so off I thought it was damn tren lol
I would start dark and work my way lighter. If dark feels week then the lighter is stronger, vice versa. But even the most powerful tren was lighter. Id give it a shot
Lighter because too hot and hormone is destroyed...dark gear...or should say, too dark
I have been lucky enough to not even have gotten that dark colored test e. Thank God
Amen bro! I remember folks tripping on the cloudy light tren. That shit was hot af but folks don't know brewing nowadays. It doesn't help when gear pop up as hazardous too...ugh
All the new pharmacom are darker. Even the sust. They can open a new bag of raws in the same batch number. I believe the batch number is whatever they cook and package during that cooking spree. So technically could open a new bag if they used like used 10 bags for a huge batch
This does make some sense. I don’t know shit about being a cook though
This makes me think they put the wrong compound in that bold vial. They are all bottled with the same batch number, so it leaves me to believe yet again batch numbers do not mean shit, and somehow it’s a completely different compound in that bottle like @Yourmamma69 said, and there is Tren in that vial. Regardless of how you look at this, it shows incompetence on many levels and no professionalism at all. One guy states different raws, so sure I can see that and why it has a different color, but if this is the case shouldn’t the batch numbers differ from each other? No matter how you look at it, this situation stinks. It sucks for the buyer, and the vendor who is selling this UGL brand.
And I wonder if I'm getting double fked because my replacements for ultima cyp are pharmacom lollll
Pharmacom vials are shorter than Ultima
Well exactly I feel terrible for @Osgear as they are helping me with shitty vials of cyp I got all 13 of them these are what I ordered with that shipment and now I don't even know if I can use this just money down the drain and I just want to do cycle this sucks so bad and idk what the hell to do at this point ... No matter what same raws or not every cooking pot should be different batch this shit sucks
Yeah sorry that happened bro, I wouldn’t be to happy either. Shit ain’t cheap, you just wanna feel safe in knowing you’re pinning the correct shit, and it will work as intended. Crazy it’s Pharmacom now, I would presume they have quality gear, now it will have me second guessing them going forward.
Oh trust me man this is a shit show for me right now I don't even know what to do
Well for sure had me second guessing big time and I was happy that at least something I have that is not ultima ... Up until now I had hundreds of ultima vials. So when that exploded I was like fml and now between this and 13 vials of cyp coming I'm gonna have 20 vials of shit from pharmacom
Yours wasn't as bad as mine with Ultima where I have clear boldenone, I feel like this could just be an oxidation issue of the one vial. Still sucks none the less, feeling like the wild wild west out here
Well that is the thing because there is a guy who has 3 dark 1 light and I don't even know what to trust lol at least if they were different batch I would be like oh well maybe just different bach lol
what are the quality codes on one of the light ones and the dark one?
Where the hell do I find quality codes ? Lol and they are same batch
There ya go, I was always suspicious of this brand and it would not surprise me if they are associated with Ultima. Same batch numbers different colors. I would black list them, they are doing the same shit just putting vials in pre printed boxes with batch numbers on them.
If you have the money, send it off to Jano for testing.
I think the same as you, bro. I’m about to receive some Pharmacom soon, we’ll see how it goes.
I have always suspected this pal ever since they came back onto the scene.
What is odd too if you look they are different vials two of them have an in print of their logo in the actual vial too
Yes the Triple Stripes on the inside?
What do the triple stripes mean?
I'll exam them more maybe they are under the sticker but not sure
Yep two have them two don't
Just because they are different colors doesn't mean it's bunk or in any way that they are associated with ultima. That's a bit of a reach without anything other than it being different colors. Some raws are darker than others and certain oils are darker than others. Just like the dark Test E, it was super dark but tested fine. I wouldn't condemn a company and say to blacklist them just based off of this picture, that's wild. Yeah they might be using other raws in the same batches but that doesn't mean it's bad necessarily. It is possible, but we need quite a bit more evidence than just this than to say blacklist a company.
Hell no, you're crazy. How the hell is it okay to mix other raws into a batch and give it the same batch number? That is exactly how huge screwups can happen. That is exactly why the Ultima Beligas fiasco is a huge mess. I am black listing this brand, no way in hell will I buy it.
Lol I agree how the hell they can use different raws in same batch at that point that's a different damn batch lol wdf
I didn't say it was okay, never once did I say that. But you aren't a scientist and neither am I there could be reasons for this we know nothing about. As long as it tests fine then who gives a fuck. And you can make whatever choice you want on what you buy. But I wouldn't go that far until there is proof that it's not good.
Say you bought 2kg of bold raws. Brewed 1kg up, then the raws melted due to heat (bold is notorious for this), then you brew up the remaining of your 2kg stockpile. When bold melts it turns into this tree sap/amber looking color. Would you consider all oils brewed with that single “batch” of 2kg raws you purchased the same oil batch as well? I could see the argument going both ways. Batch being based off of the batch of raws and batch being based on when it was brewed regardless if it’s from the same raws.
Either way, forget all these international brands and start buying domestic. You don’t see our tried and true domestic sources fucking up like this.
Thants not how it works. One kettle is one batch. I worked in food and medicine manufacturing industries for 30 years and one kettle or cook is one batch. That way you know what Batch recall.
When it comes to these gear companies one batch is one batch of raws. They may have several brews on one batch of raws hence the color variation.
I’m aware of how it “should” work. But you gotta remember these batch numbers are all arbitrary anyways and there’s no telling how they do things. It’s already proven they don’t test their raws at all. lol they aren’t out here following FDA guidelines or ASTM standards.
Are the US Domestics generally very good quality compared to the International stuff?
Anything American is better than everything else. its just the way it is.
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