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  • Edit Paratropin blood test

  • Datdude   •   Fri, Oct 4th, '19 17:29   •   11 replies, 244 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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Old test done in March while on test e 125 EOD, not taking GH

New test done this past Monday, taking Test e 250mg every 7th day, taking 3.3iu every night before bed through 6 vials, took 4iu 3 hours before fasted blood test...

Last cycle finished up 3 weeks ago, posted other blood results.

125 test e eod puts me at 1400 test, I hoping 250mg a week will put me somewhere around 900-1100. Still waiting for those results

My GH serum is raised significantly and my igf is raised also.

This is from a promo of Paratropin that TR sent. Thank you again to TR and here are bloods as promised.

I posted old bloods with values while not on GH and new test are obviously while on Paratropin.

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  • HailRazor's picture
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My GH serum is raised significantly and my igf is raised also.

? They both are in the normal range it seems ?
(IGF1 did double tho)

This is one where an old school test using 10Iu pre GH Serum would help to determine if this is real GH or bunk or maybe peptide (GHRH(p))

It almost looks bunk for GH and maybe a peptide...
But hard to say without better testing tho

Thx for testing bro

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Let’s scale that 10iu test down. Usually we expect to see a serum of 20+ correct?

So he took 4iu four hours before testing, I’d look for serum of 8 or more. Serum here was 6 so his 4 iu dose it hitting more like 3.

25% less than expected means his 3.3 iu daily dose is really closer to 2.475 iu’s per day. Which I would expect to produce igf1 of around 240-250. Which is about right where he tested.

So maybe only 25% degraded/underdosed?
Thoughts?

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Well.....with the Serums.....its not always an accurate reflection of iU or mg content in the vial

(This is from my own comparison of my Serum results to actual lab results iu/mg in vial)

Also my resting GH Serum is around < .1 to <.01 ng/mL

Looks like his resting was 2.8 ng/mL from one GH Serum result......so I dunno

Something else to look at is the recent JIN blood serum results from one particular batch from one source.....

The IGF1 results stayed within range or low

But the GH serum elevated to > 20 ng/mL

GH Serum elevated reflects GH present

IGF1 Serum reflects bioavailability or activity

(We’re guessing there was some degradation from heat possibly)

With this brand here. (PARA)...it would be good to see other results for comparison

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I just ment raised from my baseline, but tha ks for taking a look.

  • HailRazor's picture
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Yea....I see what u mean

It did double IGF1 from baseline (but still within normal range)

You have any other GH blood tests for comparison ?

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No I dont, sorry. But thank you both for all the information.

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Yip

Did you feel anything from these? Numb fingertips, etc ? With those JINs that tested low in IGF1...they still felt some normal sides

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No numb fingers, skin looking nice though. I believe I hid a kit of that same batch of jins from serge, I felt good on those also as far as overall sense of well being, but didnt get any numbness from those either. Wish i could test every time i tried a different brand. I have some ansomone to try next. As a whole its exhausting trying to figure out what's real and what's not, not to mention the cost involved. Glad to test these since they came from a promo and I had blood test scheduled already. I'm also not getting that real DEEP sleep from these like I got when I tried some other brands.

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As a whole its exhausting trying to figure out what's real and what's not, not to mention the cost involved.

Yes! That’s why I’ve used the JINS and BIOHYGENEs only for awhile.......but that recent almost expired batch of JINs from Serge looks like they mighta kept the entire lot in a hot storage

ANSOMONE....(from Serge)

Hadn’t used them I quite awhile....but I’m almost 100% positive you’ll get good results (blood Serums) from them

Thanks for the info...

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So you been on about 18 days?

Not bad, not great. I’d be looking for 330+ on igf at that dose as a rough estimate and you’re only 60 points under that.

How’s the vacuum on these vials? And are you venting them before adding water? This helps prevent the gush of water that some people say affects the “potency”. I do it just for peace of mind because growth ain’t cheap lol.

Plus two from the Beard for testing

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Vacuum seal is really tight, every vial is nice and tight..not venting, just shoot the bac water in at an angle again glass..actually never done venting before.. I do push air in before drawing to allow it to draw more efficiently.