posted Tue, 04/12/2022 - 01:46
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+ 8 Novotrop blood test
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Exceptional results from Karl Novotrop HGH!
Was using 5 i.u. daily for about 20 days, I shot 10 i.u. approx. 3hr 15min. Prior to blood draw.
Very happy with these results. I'm going to be ordering some more of these. Lighting fast t/a domestic
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RustyhookerWow!
You like that? Your next order?
SwoljaboyGreat numbers. Not sure if this is a silly question but I was told the only silly questions were the ones not asked so here it goes. If im not mistaken you got some LR3 as well not sure if you were running it yet along side the GH. But hypothetically you were running the LR3 with the GH would this also cause an increase in IGF-1 in the blood? Its something I have always been curious about I mean logically it would make sense for IGF to be raised by putting IGF in our body. IDK im starting to mind fuck myself right now lol.
Lr3 has 83 amino acids endogenous igf is 70. I asked someone they say no. I'm not sure I thought same as you
This is my understanding on monitoring bloods for LR3. Mentioned this to Swoljaboy in PM
IGF-LR3 is tricky one to pick up on a blood test. I've never heard of anyone specifically detecting it on a blood test. Supposedly the reason you can't really detect it on a blood test is that it's a different molecular weight than regular IGF-1. LR3 has an added amino chain to increase the half-life and active life of the compound. Usually blood tests rely on molecular weights to identify substances, so I believe this is why it really doesn't show up on blood tests. Technically both LR3 and DES are different compounds from just regular IGF1 so the likely hood of them being detected on a blood test are slim to none going by the testing methods that we use for IGF.
SwoljaboySo what about Regular IGF?
In theory you would expect it to since it is the proper molecular weight. You also have to take the pharmacokinetics into consideration. Exogenous IGF binds to receptors rather quickly once injected and really shouldn't be in circulation for to long. My understanding is that blood tests only pick up on the free IGF and not the bound so it could be hard to pick up on a blood test also. there are a lot of dynamic factors in play with IGF. Easy way to test that theory would be to stop GH use and only IGF and see if it can be picked up on a blood test.
@Sciroxx Karl any thoughts on this.
Sorry brothers ... was locked out ...... back ....
As a fact IGF1-LR3 (or DES) can't be measured by the ELISA kit which tests the serum IGF1 levels, as Big Tone explained above the LR3 is simply a different molecule than the endogenous IGF1. Only bio-identical IGF1 can be measured.
So this phenomenal read is due to the GH effect solely.
SwoljaboySo IGF-1 not LR3 and Not DES can be read on the test then? if thats the case how long post injection should bloods be ran on IGF if half life is very short?
Sorry if was not clear, BOTH lr3 and DES derivatives can't be detected in normal serum IGF1 test
Swoljaboywhat about Real IGF-1 pure IGF-1
As said -> bio-identical IGF1 will be shown in the tests, this is the same molecule as the IGF1 which our body secrets, UNLIKE the lr-3 derivative (which is much more potent and has a much longer half life)
SwoljaboyLooks like I have a mission to complete for the eroids brothers! how long post injection should bloods be done on that about 30 min right?
I don't have an answer. Going to have to get Karl to chime in on this one.
SwoljaboyGreat topic though for a thread right? lol
Yea
Those numbers are freakin insane. I would have been really happy with 350-400
GH serum was likely on the rise also and would have peaked higher in another hour or so. Not going to get any better numbers than this. Thanks for testing 
I thought same as you. I think my liver enzymes are a lot lower this test but the numbers are crazy lol.
Are you getting much CTS?
Yes CTS was the worst I ever had on these lol
Did CTS lessen when you dropped the LR3. Usually when I cycle LR3 I often have to lower the GH dose due to CTS.
No it was full blown the whole way lol. That GH is powerful shit. Strongest I ever used. I kept 5 i.u. the whole 2 kits. I'm up 5 lbs and leaner than when I started. I'm on juice too of course but got to my heaviest weight ever
Good Numbers!
I wish you good Results!
Stay Healthy!
Yukon_JackWow!! Good shit Tone !
Ty for the testing
bighulk3012Sick results man!