posted Tue, 11/09/2021 - 02:22
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Milky Gear??
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Does anyone have any experience with gear that has a milky like swirl visible in the oil? This is the second instance I have had with the same brand of gear having this milky substance floating around. It generally seems to dissipate if shaken or especially if warmed. Thinking it may be fine if filtered and ran into a new vial, but still curious as to what some veterans thoughts are. This is a well known name brand through a well known vendor on this page. Let me know your thoughts..
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. May try to run through a filter into another vial. I appreciate all the replies and helpful input.
The photo you uploaded isn’t the best but I had a dozen or more vials of Tren which I wasn’t keen to throw in the bin which looked similar:
https://imgur.com/a/KOMgzM8
I spoke to a brewer I trusted and he said it wasn’t an issue. It was where the compound was overheated during the brewing process. I had 0 problems with the gear. You’ll find a lot of the older chaps have used cloudy gear one time or another due to information not being as freely available and people not having a clue how to cook gear up, thank fuck for the internet.
RustyhookerCloudy tren...oh yes its bionic imo. But these pix look off. Looks milky like a moneyshot in the oil.
Wonder if he reheats it?
Better photos are needed for more clarification but we can only really speculate although I would be sure it would be overheated gear given what information we have and photos we’ve seen.
He mentioned below he has reheated it and the substance disappears but reappears later, as mine did, shaking also has the same effect.
RustyhookerBoom! Sounds like its solved
I've had a few bottles of Tren like that with the floaty strings that swirl around. And yes heating does resuspension and it goes away. That's the only way I got away with using those, but the PIP was there somewhat annoying. It's a filtration issue and I would recommend not using the gear. Gear colligating heat
I often find that once I bring back crashed gear that it has pip. Not sure why. Uncrashed bottles are fine but once I bring it back the pip starts.
I hope for my sake that isn’t the case, but I can deal with some pip. No big deal, just wanna be sure that if there’s any bacteria that it’s properly filtered and good to go. If I was confident that it was okay I would just pin as is, but I don’t feel 100% certain that it is free of contaminants. Although, I did pin some tren earlier this year like this and had no troubles. Same brand too.
AnonThere’s nothing living in that alcohol and solvent laden swill..
AnonProbably re crashing after pinned to some extent, too much hormone and not enough solvent.
Yes, you're correct...the oil/solvents dissipate faster leaving the crystal hormones in the muscle tissue and it feels like shards of glass/def need a heatpad to dissolve the left over hormones...
RichriverDrow it away, you need to think that you will shoot that in your body and you don't now what it is and everybody is saying something else.
Don't play with your body man.
A secondary option is that you pulled too much into the syringe when drawing, it reacted with the sterile inside of the needle, and when you pushed it back in left those strings. There can be sterilant left in the syringe during the manufacturing process. It’s nothing to be concerned with but I have seen it happen and left these spider web strings the exact same way. They weren’t “milky” but were more just weird strings.
Needless to say, when in doubt throw it out. I was able to keep using mine because I never saw this prior to pinning and it was only brought about after pushing oil back into the vial. In your case it doesn’t sound like you can say the same.
Also just for fun, check out the cdc’s guidelines on sterile manufacturing. They’re pretty cool to read about.
Yeah that makes sense, but different scenarios as my vials are still sealed. Both vials have the same issue.
Yeah definitely just a stringy/milky gathering. The red of the oil looks pristine.
I'd say crashed, especially if it disappears when heated. I have had some gear look like that before. Kind of like white fluffy strings. The gear is clear except for the strings. If the whole vial turned cloudy/milky then toss.
AnonThats why I said crashed, if it goes away when heated that's crashed. I don't see how water or another liquid would go anywhere when heated. Does kinda look like a spurt of winny inject in there lol
Well that’s the thing. It seems to get more dispersed when heated and shaken, but if let set for any amount of time it seems to return.
This also coincides with what I wrote. As the sterilant gets heated it disperses slightly. Then as it cools it find it’s way back as a polar molecule.
Pm the source about it. If in doubt, then toss it
Yeah maybe some precipitation during sealing or something? I had some tren ace from this brand a while back with the same exact issue. I shook and heated and pinned and no issues that I know of, but it’s a little disturbing. Just wanna be sure it’s clean. Unstable and clean are two different things. I don’t mind having to filter if need be.
RustyhookerThats not crashed. Looks like water in it. Crashed makes crystals but that looks like water n oil wont mix
This makes the most sense. Would you pin?
AnonI would not pin if heating the vial doesn't make it go away. If it's not crashed and some other liquid is in there, well man you can't trust it.
Compound is NPP. Ultima Pharma. I figured could be crashed, but typically I’ve seen crashed gear look a little different. So you guys think it may not even be necessary to filter? Could just need a good warming enough to suspend everything again?
If it clears up with heat, then you are probably doing more harm then good by trying to filter.
AnonBaaaaarely crashed, hot ass water but don’t submerge the vial because water isn’t sterile.
What compound is it anyways?
AnonIt's crashed. You just gotta learn how to warm it up enough and keep it stored at room temp so it doesn't crash again.