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Got my week 7 labs back. I thought I had my estro levels dialed in, but they are pretty high!. I had no noticeable sides at all. I was taking a pretty low dose of AI, I thought I crashed my estro early on when I had sore joints. this was Exemestane dosed 3,3,0,3,3,0. I'm gonna have some aromasin for breakfast today!

500mg a week of FX Test E
45 years, 197lbs 15%

MegaT883's picture

Qtips that's not the female panel as testosterone is measured in ECLIA. This test with the true number is LC/MSMS. Any testosterone LC/MSMS test will give you the true number. This one is the Hormone Panel with F&T Testosterone & SHBG about $128 with the discount(coupon code nk43kns). If your looking for a true # for serum test then get the Hormone Panel for Females by Quest. It's 69.99 same as privatemds test but testosterone in tested in LC/MSMS. Haven't found a discount for them yet.

http://labsmd.com/tests.php?view=all&show=2234&category=14&search=#2234
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=2116&category=1...

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I thought I should add that this test did not include a CBC, complete blood count.I should have been more concerned about my blood details! It was cool to see how much test was in me, but not all that relevant to my health

It did seem like FX had a good surge in business after I posted that huge test level!

MegaT883's picture

Your welcome brother. If your ever on a tren cycle use the labsmd test (Quest Diagnostics)as it also measures estradiol in IA instead of ECLIA and you won't get the false high estradiol reading as you do with privatemdlabs (Labcorp).

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thanks for the labs awesome test number ya got there i gotta try fx very soon hope u get that estro under control +1 for bloods

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CBBurrr's picture

Thanks, I'm confident I'll get it dialed in. I couldn't believe it when I saw how hi my estro was, I thought it was going to be spot on. I still feel fine, no weird emotions, no gyno, still strong, etc.

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I don't think it's the Aromasin that was the problem. I was just dosing really low because I showed no signs of high estro.
I was up to 6mg a day for a week, around week 4, and managed to drop the estro low enough to get sore joints and fatigue.
I did 12mg this AM, and will try to roll with 5mg a day until I notice sore joints. The only side I have seen with my high estro is a little acne on my chest. I'm sure my skin will dry right out when I up my aromasin a little.

j223's picture

aromasin sucks. good luck getting dialed in with aromasin. I never could. It's half life is less than 9 hours

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I'm looking forward to hearing from Carlos Danger, he seems to really know his blood lab data.
I'm gonna research my AST and ALT numbers, see if I should be concerned about them being high.
And low CO2, not sure what that means either.

MegaT883's picture

The low CO2 is an electrolyte test. It measures bicarbonate in your blood. It means your blood PH is very acidic.Not a good thing. You can take oral sodium bicarbonate( an antiacid that contains sodium bicarbonate). It helps correct low levels of carbon dioxide in the blood. If your CO2 does not rise after supplementation then you have problem. If you have had diarrhea it can cause low levels as you lose bicarbonate and levels drop.
Your ALT and AST are not that high and will elevate just from exercise. You should be taking some type of liver support though. Alcohol will make it rise also and since the holidays just past may be a factor also. Nothing to be concerned about with the liver values. I'd be more concerned about that CO2 number.

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Mega, I've been reading about this all evening. I think you might have it backwards on the blood PH.

"Respiratory alkalosis is a condition marked by low levels of carbon dioxide in the blood due to breathing excessively"
and something about your blood making an ion exchange in attempt to make more CO2, and that exchange raises blood PH.

I'm still trying to make sense of it, .will read up some more.

MegaT883's picture

To be honest it can go either way. Since I didn't know you were at high altitude I'm assuming your acidic. But low CO2 can make you acidic or alkaline depending on what's causing it. Just keep in mind that the reference range does take into account people in high altitudes. pH is a small window. In venous blood it's 7.32 - 7.42. Less than <7.32 is acidic. To find out if you are acidic or alkaline you would need to do a pH test to really know.Your pH can be measured using a simple at-home urine test. You can get this at any drugstore for under $10. That's the 1st step.
http://www.globalrph.com/abg_analysis.htm

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Thanks again, you are quite helpful and I really appreciate it.

CBBurrr's picture

Thanks Mega.
I'll try a little baking soda. I have not had the runs or any diet issues.

CBBurrr's picture

I did some more reading up on the co2 level. It looks like high altitude can lead to lower numbers. I live at a very high altitude... 9000ish
My pre cycle number was 20, and I'm at 18 now. nothing drastic. I also read that levels drop when you are retaining fluids, and I bet I was holding some water with my high estro.

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One other thing.Your not taking enough AI for your age. 3mg of a 25mg dose is not enough. Without an AI you body will produce anywhere from 100-170pg/ml of estradiol on average. You need to up your dose to maintain with that 4k+ test level.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2913038/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3104191/?report=classic

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I had been trying drop the dose till I noticed itchy nips, and the nips never had any issues. The only symptom I could clearly see was an increase in chest acne, and only a little of that. I did run higher doses at the beginning of the cycle, enough to get some real sore joints. I'm gonna try to take enough AI to get me on the verge of sore joints.

I'm gonna read those links now... thanks

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Thanks + from me

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boz645's picture

Good to see labs done for FX's gear bro. I like the results for the test levels. +1

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+1 for bloods

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That is 500mg a week of your test e, blood was drawn the day after pinning 250