posted Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:18
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+ 2 Mid-cycle (8 weeks) labs: Test E/EQ cycle
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These were run at mid cycle of a Test E (500/wk) and EQ (600/wk) run. I was running arimidex (pharma) .5mg eod, and am going to bump it to .5mg ed to bring the e2 into range. I pin TNE about once a week, and this may have been enough to drive the estradiol up a bit.
The surprise is the AST (74) and ALT (73) liver function numbers. I am not running any orals (except for Proviron) so I wasn't expecting this. I have Liv52 and Milkthistle on hand and am going to add them.
Could the Proviron be responsible?
Otherwise, not much concern. The Test serum number is actually higher than I expected.
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leonidas7Proviron is barely liver toxic. Might add a few ticks but nothing crazy.
Heavy resistance training will, as discussed already.
Your levels aren't that high, so I wouldn't worry or even bother adding in the supps. It's when you are in the 100's for an extended period of time that it really starts to stress the body.
These tests make it easy to freak out, as often anything marked as "high" or flagged makes us paranoid. Remember it is just based on an average and does not indicate that it is actually unhealthy to have the numbers that you have.
AssUhlArimidex is not meant to be ran daily at any dose my friend.....its half life is too long. Its kinda like the Enanthate of AI's. Have you tried Aromasin/Exemestane? Much better if you plan to run daily....start out at 12mg ed till you get your levels down then switch to 6.25mg ed. And good job goingwith Pharma AI'S.....stay away from the research AI's. +1
Thanks, I will look into it further; perhaps discuss with my prescriber. I do have aromasin on hand, but had started with adex. I am not overly concerned about the e2 numbers though, as I am not off the charts, and it may have been a spike that was TNE related.
I like using adex 0.25mg ed nothing wrong with taking daily.
That makes no sense bro. Either more frequent dosing or long half lives will even out blood concentrations of the drug but there's no reason you can't take arimidex every day (or test E for that matter).
What brand of arimidex are you using?
Prescription/generic anastrozole.
Yes but which generic - just curious...
I have no way of knowing...it's whatever the drugstore dispenses. But I do know that it is about 80% less expensive than brand arimidex.
Thanks. I figured you got it from naps ...
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http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/elevated-ast-or-alt-wha....
Thanks for the timely referral and the links. I had pushed out some really killer workouts and upped the cardio, so that is a very likely reason.
Its a myth that only orals can be liver toxic. Any drug can cause liver toxicity depending on your predisposition
where did you come up with that hypothesis from
It is not a hypothesis most of drugs are metabolised in the live if u do not have proper enzimes for that then every drug can be liver toxic. I know with oral AAS u have it for granted. But I leave this link here anyways. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21421678/?i=1&from=liver%20toxicity...
thats not what I'm saying. Not everything is toxic to the liver. Sure almost everything is but what about kidneys
Not everything is liver toxic but most of drugs COULD be liver toxic based on ur individual predisposition. We actually dont know much about liver toxicity mechanism. Nd kidney one depends also on many individual factors
true Tylenol and whiskey is deadly as hell
Hahahaha yeah man. Paracetamol mixed with alcohol can fuck up ur liver