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  • idan707   •   Sat, Mar 9th, '19 10:38   •   35 replies, 971 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

Sources: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
            

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My 4th order from kig.
Promo order 600iu+ 240iu.
I will start and say that in my last 3 orders i was feeling the hgh very well and was tested and got very high numbers.
When i start the promo batch few weeks after i didnt feel the same as was in the past.
No side effect at all no leanless as alwayes and my body acne didnt dissapir like the previus batches.
That make me wonder why? So i does igf test for this batch to see whats wrong.
The protocol was the same as before 6iu 2.5 hours on emptey stomch before blood taken.
I didnt take any ai at all only test prop 80 eod npp 100 eod and 60mg var.
As you can see score came back very low.
I very dispointed
Kig was send me the hplc of this batch and claim it 100% hgh.
Like i say the past batches was real strong but now something didnt wotk out.
Any ideas way i got this numbers?
6iu = 196

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  • MegaT883
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All I can say is somethings NOT right with this test in several ways and no one has caught it. SMH.

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estro?

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Pickle you ever seen a testosterone total test out of range listed as 52.05< which means less than. It should read >52.05 which is more than. If it was less than as listed it would show the actual level .That right there raises a red flag for me. Very unlikely the testing lab produced this read out by mistake due to liability. So i go back and look at his previous labs. Which raises more red flags.

Let me state i have no dog in this hunt but we rely on accurate information when posting labs but sometimes its not. So when i see it I'm going to call it out. This is a doctored lab not legit and I'll show you why.

If you look at his lab from July 21 2017 you see that his testosterone total is listed as >52.05 which means more than 52.05 and out of range. This lab is legit. This lab shows that the testing lab lists T total correctly as its in their computer program. So the lab he listed is bogus and has been altered not just the T total but across the board.

Just want to point out back in 2016 post he stated his base line IGF-1 was 196. Now keep in mind its a medical fact that testosterone use and androgen use will increase IGF-1. He was using steroids but yet his level is 196 go figure...not possible.

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Glad you have a keen eye. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Makwa once I started looking into this test I noticed it didn't have all the markers that a legit test has.The 1st test he posted is also a fake. Now if I'm wrong all the original poster has to do is provide a screen shot of the electronic results of the test. Like the middle 2 tests he posted on his profile which are legit but I doubt that will happen. Makwa you've been around a while and what we have here is a breakingface clone someone trying to get free product by bogus means. The test he posted has been altered and I can point out all the flaws. I don't know if this source is good or bad as I have never used him but it's bullshit when someone tries to kill his business and get free product on a fake blood test. If anyone tries to scam a blood test I'm going to call you out when I see it.
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Go to the link below and it explains how to spot a fake. It also explains how it's done. But in a nutshell it's easy to fake a report but it always leaves a telltale sign behind. A photo always leaves artifacts behind when you change it. The original is always sharp and clear but when you make a change it degrades. If you take a copy and then copy that, alter it and copy that it's never as sharp as the original. Just blow up the original post photo and compare with the 2 photos of his 2 other labs (links below). Original and photo 1 have been altered and are fake. Zoom up the lab. Notice the degradation of the the writing and numbers but not of the level bracket boxes and outer lines. Notice the ghosting of the bracket squares (horizontal box lines faded or missing) where the levels have been altered. Now look at picture 2 and blow it up to 500% notice there is no degradation or artifacts it all uniform. Notice the the level boxes are all crisp and clean sharp no ghosting. I can point out more but this is enough to make my point. Original and photo link 1 are fakes. Link 2 is a legit lab which also shows correct reading for Testosterone at >52 not like fake 52<.
Just being real and calling like I see it.

https://www.eroids.com/pics/labs-101-shops-mart-bunk-report-its-a-jungle-out-there-how-not-to-get-eaten-by-the-fakeosaurus

photo link 1 https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/99451/0d3cc_myTests-page-001.jpg

photo link 2 https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/99451/IMG_3214.JPG

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I'll check the links out. Hopefully I'll be able to spot the fakes like you can.

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Good looking out.

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@mod
Any one could please help me delete the communication with idan707 ?

Thank you very much!

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Once someone replys you can't delete

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  • Dacky
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I don’t know this source at all and I’ve never used his GH. I will say that if this is an immunoassay based IGF-1 test (and in all likelihood it will be) it is subject to interferences. You can see my most recent lab test pic when I too had some disappointing IGF-1 numbers. Which are then cleared up with a second blood test.

The theory is DHT’s (and var would be one of these) cause interference with certain IGF-1 immunoassay based tests.

The only way to rule this out will be to test using a LC-MS test. You can enquire with your testing lab if they have such a test available.

Edit: the thinking is the following assay may be one of those that have this interference problem so maybe worth checking with your lab if they use this assay - IDS iSYS IGF-1 assay

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Just for the record the var was started 2 weeks ago
Until that i was 3 mounth on that hgh batch and feel nothing.
Until this batch all other batch from im make me side effect like:
Clear my acne
Leanless
And numbness hand that hurt as hell... I wasnt able to play on my iphone/play ps4 2 min before my hand was hard as rock and numb!
This time i got 0 sides! I mean you got to have some side but nothing.
Take that and take a look that another person here wrote that is friend was feeling the same ( not feeling nothing)
And see in the source page that 2 or more was claming that this batch terrible and do the math.
I throw the var few days ago wait 2 weeks and will do my second igf test.
Belive me im the first person to admit my mistake if i got another score.
We just wait and see

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Bro calm down. I’m not calling you out as wrong at all mate. I was just pointing you to some info on some research I had been doing in case it was uselful to you especially in the context of further testing.

As I said I don’t know this source and I have never used their GH. I do agree that from what you describe there does seem like there is something not right with this GH and I see plenty of negative reviews.

If you have the opportunity to test using LC-MS next time then that would remove all chances of interference and if your score was still low (and I believe it likely would be from what you describe) then the source can not claim his GH is good. That is how I was trying to help.

Good luck my friend I wish you the best getting this resolved.

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Im sorry my friend i didnt want to sound angry... Im sorry for that.
I dont have the chance to test it using lc-ms but im trying to get gh serum test with my igf test.
I thank you for the kind words but this dont going to resolved you know why?
The source wrote me that if upload bed review me and him will not making busniess any more.
Im done with this source

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Contact pale or Greg.

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WTF!!!

Post up his PM or email (if the latter remember to remove any personal details).

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Hello bro
I want to test hgh serum level and igf level
Do you have a chance to do it? I will provide free products

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idan707
Feb 25th, 2019

Hi sir
As you can see i do that in the last 3 ordres from you
And yes i will do another one a few day from now.
I cant test hgh serum level becasue it forbidden without doctor premession but igf level i will do... I just want to you to know that the last batch that i order from you with the promo dosent feel as good past ordes from you.
I didnt get any side effect and the overall feeling that its not strong as before but only blood test will show it.
I will do the igf test and will send it to you in private and then you and me decide if to upload it to the forum sir.

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idan707
Feb 26th, 2019

Did you got my last message sir?
And can you say more about free products?

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kigtropincn1
Feb 26th, 2019

Hello bro , I want to test a kit for igf level, no problem if you don't test serum level!
The kit has confirmed good quality by hplc test already , I just want a igf level test result for one of my friend! This test is not test unknown quality hgh!
The kit I will send you is 120iu per kit! Purity is 99.3%
You use 6iu every day and 20days after do igf level!
Don't add the other drugs during the test time , I want to see a very correct igf level.

After you show me the result, I will send you one kit free

Means total you will get two kits.

Do you agree?

Best regards

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idan707
Feb 26th, 2019

Im now on test prop 100 eod
Anavar 60mg
And your hgh 6iu per day
I was on test prop and 6iu 2 month and added the var in the last week.
I will test it as is right now and in a few days will send you the bloods score in private and you will think if its good or not to use this blood test.
You will get the blood score 2 weeks from now.
If you have any comment please let me know sir.
And i dont use any ai in this cycle that will lower the igf score.
Thank you sir

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kigtropincn1
Feb 27th, 2019

Thank you! No matter good or bad , don't have to post it! Send it to me to email!
After you did the test , I will send you one kit free or pay you back the test fees!
Yes , iam very confident to my hgh! Even you get not good igf level , 100% not hgh problem! Our hgh were tested by hplc every batch and confirmed good! Bloods work only for reference ,

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idan707
Feb 27th, 2019

Ok sir i will do the test and send you the bloods as soon possible

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Feb 27th, 2019

Thank you bro!

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idan707
Mar 6th, 2019

Hi sir
I just got the igf test and like i say before i was skeptical about this batch becasue i didnt feel any side effects at all
Score came back 196 after 6iu shot.
Very disspointed!
From the begnin of this batch i didnt feel it has hgh on it!
The past test from you numbers was high as hell as you can see in my profile pictuers.
I put all my money on this promo kits and got zero hgh

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kigtropincn1
Mar 6th, 2019

This is must be have erro

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kigtropincn1
Mar 6th, 2019

Our gh have no quality problem , I can 100% sure

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kigtropincn1
Mar 6th, 2019

Hello bro , I know you get lower igf level not happy , but do you still want to test hgh for us?
Last batch which at promo time is 99.5% purity . Hgh is no problem , I test every batch now! I don't know why You get lower igf level , you have to find other problem , hgh is real and pharma grade , seriously! Since I start to sell toptrope a few years back , I use that legit pharma and never change it!

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Mar 7th, 2019

But how can you expline that?
In my last 3 orders i got side effects my skin was most of it acne free and im prone to acne.
This time when i started my promo batch after few weeks i didnt feel anything! No numness in my hand no leaner effect and my acne start to get worse!
I didnt take any ai that can lower igf and i do the test the same protocol that in the past that came back high as hell
I tell you this is not a hgh and i saw and feel that few weeks after the use.
Im a studnet i buy from you and put all my money for this and got nothing in return!
I cant do hplc test herebecuae its cost a lot of money and they dont test it for private people.
Im going to upload review about that batch im very disspointed and ask for you to find me a sulotion for this problem it just not ok to take my money... Money that i work night shift and get this product!
As a loyal costemur that upload 2-3 times highest score per iu for you and you can see that i expect to find me a solution for this problem

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kigtropincn1
Mar 7th, 2019

Hello sir
As I told you , hgh have no problem , I sold a lot at promo time , all ppl are like it!
Yes , thank you and really appreciate that you are a loyal customer, and i never change hgh to you! All my hgh are the same quality , pharma grade!
If you want to write bad review , no problem ,
Thank you for all your business and may be it's our last time to do business because you get a low igf level
Sorry to hear that , but it's not our hgh problem except you did not keep it well.

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kigtropincn1
Mar 7th, 2019

Sir
Check your email please
I sent you the hplc test result!
To be frank , i can easily get pharma grade hgh , i don't have to sell fake one! If fake hgh , i can't sell so many years here. Iam one of the oldest source on eroids.com

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idan707
Mar 7th, 2019

I dont understand my i got low numbers
The same protocol
The same hgh
The same cycle
Diffrent numbers

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kigtropincn1
Mar 7th, 2019

I don't know too... Please Take a picture of your hgh and send to my email ,

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idan707
Mar 7th, 2019

I will send you a pic with the hgh and with the test from my doctor... Please write here your email

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I dont understand what you try to say when you post our pm? He already got them on private.
Insted of taking responsibility of this batch all you say to people "here is the hplc test out hgh is legit the end"
Your previus batches was very good and now this batch not.
Take responsibility of your stuff its not a shame to admit that this batch is poor.

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I will not do that in public its not ok.
Everyone that want proof are welcome to send me friend request and i be happy to show it

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He said this to you ? Really ?

Then he is a POS and he not deserve anyones buiseness

I havent ordered from him and now never will

Thank you for leting comunity know brother, this is what eroids is all about

Respect from me

Dope

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  • Dobermann
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Its funny how u post that and Kig posts hpcl report for same GH...

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of course its funny. Before i upload the test results i was send it to him so he can give me answers.
All i got was the hplc test that is uploaded and promise that is a real hgh. Not helping me much in this case.
We win some or we loss some this time i loss.

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Shit numbers for 6iu ... bunk sory brother

Respect

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That's a horrible number for 6. You should be in the 500 at the least. I know for myself, usually one IU equates to 85 to 100 Point increase. There is a ceiling effect to that but not at this point.

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suck!

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That sucks. Seeing your results from your previous test at a lower dosage.

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Sounds about what I was expecting. I bought a large bulk on that same promo and it is definitely not helping my sleep or recovery what so ever.

Sadly, I’m getting better results from MK677 that cost me pennies in comparison.

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I’m sorry to hear that bro. Really only one generic I trust these days... my numbers from toptrope never blew me away.

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Not a good result

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Perhaps the batch was subjected to extreme temperatures at some point... that’s basically like you weren’t taking any growth at all.