+ 5 IGF-1 671 on 5iu black tops and MK-677
I had bloods drawn in December but I felt that my results did not match my number which was 662. So I thought maybe there was a mistake or something with the lab. I got a new script for bw which is a pain in Canada and retested about a month ago and I forgot to post. Surprisingly the results are essentially the same. I was also doing 50mg of MK-677 daily so I was expecting it to be a little higher.
My results did NOT match what they should have been. Nails did not grow faster and fat loss was just moderate.
I am wondering whether there is a qualitative difference between pharma and generics and whether it is all about the highest IGF-1 or not. My results were kinda shitty tbh, which leads me to the conclusion that either my body is weird or that the IGF-1 didn´t do much because it was not bioavailable. From what I understand the 2 binding proteins IGFBP-1 and IGFBP-5 render the IGF-1 inactive and the IGFBP-3 is a rough indicator of the IGF-1 bioavailability.
I wouldn´t be surprised if the ratio of IGFBP-3/IGFBP-1 for pharma and generics is way different.
To test test that I ordered some somastim and some nordis.
I will first run the somastim and draw bloods and then run the nordis (I am collecting already and I have 1 pen so far lol) and then draw bloods. I will then compare the IGF-1 results to what my body tells me. At least for myself I will know if there is a difference between pharma and generics and if it is all about the highest IGF-1 possible or not.
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Firstly ive used black tops alot and on them now
My fucking nails and hair grow so quickly its actually annoying and ky hair gets very thick
Its genetics that stuff remember.
Just like facial hair grow is a side effect of steroids im a heavy tren user yet my brothers beard is way thicker/fuller and fills out his whole face compared to me
Lol hgh barely makes you grow alone
Look at studies on people with gh deficiency/elderly people or muscle wasting it just gives them over a long peroid of time(6months) on average 2kgs
they tested it on normal healthy males and it did nothing for muscle grow . Just aidded in abit of fat loss
Your going to be dosappointed when you get your oharma for 3 times the price and same shit happens
Again. How long where u on this gh?
U tested in December and then again in February
3 months.
I'm interested to see your physical results on pharm as comparison.
So basically
If High igf levels aren't helping fat loss (in this case) are they at least helping muscle growth?
I think it's safe to say the hyge pharmas are crap!
I think so too but how can this number then be explained???
Red welts, very lethargic feeling, minimal visible results...
That's all I need to know Bro
I never got red welts nor lethargy.
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Maybe they work for some but I didn't like them at all. The yellows are better in my opinion.
So how long where u on?
Ineresting bro, sent you a PM
As far as gh I'm only interested in hyperplasia and muscle growth while in combination with other things.
Fat loss is a benefit but there are cheaper and more effective fat loss drugs.
I wonder if you theory is the same for muscle growth.
Uv only mentioned fat loss and other growth (hair)
I didn´t see any increase in hair/nail growth, that´s what is weird because most people taking gh report that. As to muscle growth I am more about definition than bulk but the muscle growth has not really been any better than before tbh. I would have expected some sort of recomp and for my bf to go sub 10% by itself since my calories are not very high at 2500. But before starting GH I have been sitting at 12% and I still am I think
Great idea.
like ive sen telling people for months now. Igf-1 numbers dont mean shit in terms of if your gh is real. And i can assure you yoiure not getting 100ius of 191aa gh for 160 bucks. Ive ran 20us ed of those black tops and can say it did much of anything for me.
Im looking into igf-1 bp3 for testing gh. From what ive read and heard the only reason those numbers should be elevated is if your using real hgh and not peptides. But further research is needed.
IGFBP-3 is an important number when it comes to GH according to a well educated HGH guru that lurks around these parts ;)
P2i2tdid you ever get a baseline test?not that it really matters that much with a 600+ level lol just curious though
245 back in August
Interesting results ... How's your diet like?
About 2500cal about 30% protein 20% fat and 50% carbs. Rough estimate though
Anything you take should really be the icing on the cake... If all blood tests are in order ...then I can say pharma will keep you very lean,,
I was on 5000 calories a day (alkaline nutrition) no cheat meals sitting at 6%-6.5% bf no cardio for 8 weeks this was maintained @6iu a day , training 6 days a week hypertrophy. How do I know ? Dexa... Power of hgh on me but I can't comment on Hyges as i haven't run any generics, I just choose to believe they are too good to be true.