I have questions about Ultima's "bad raw" event still
So Im trying to make a timeline here for everyone so they can see the same problem Ive been seeing a while. If I am wrong, that is good. I want to be. So lets do that! Tell me where I am wrong:
First there was a Janoshik Report of a bad batch (009662) of Test E 250.
I saw that, recieved my Ultima Test and went to Authenticate. Site shutdown.
Then went to snoop around Reddit, Eroids, and Resellers. Started to see the posts about bunk test from Ultima and all the back and forth.
Then another batch fails, of Test C, with the same date of the failed E batch, June 15, 2025.
Eventually Ultima makes their FIRST apology/statement that I included. They claim they bought Bad Raws in a bind. But swore it was only those 2 batches. Its there in the screenshot.
Resellers, Ultima, Mods, all would assure us, this is isolated. The other baches that day are fine, because by some miracle they acquired "real test" hours after acquiring "bunk test"
So I have batch MT009772 MFG Date June 15, 2025. That is the same day they had their "bad raw" event. So Im to believe they unknowingly purchased bad raws that very day, ran it through, thought it was real (thats important) then switched out to other raws, and by sheer luck those raws were good?
After a day of this, another batch of Test C fails Janoshik. MT009779 So now we have 3 bad batches. Well, guess Ulitma made yet another mistake. So its just 3 now. But.....
The 3rd batch had a later MFG date, June 20, 2025. So just by going off Ultimas story this doesnt add up even slightly. If only bad raws were purchased for just 2 batches, how did a 3rd five days later get affected?
So there it is, my final question:
If Ultima just bought bad raws, on June 15, 2025, how is it possible a batch on June 20th had bad raws, and how could it be possible any batches made in between would have "good raws" based upon their story?
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I have two vials from the same
Lot, my 009772 . I emailed osgear and was told that batch number / lot number is fine. I have some
At home tests coming to check a vial before I spend the money to check it from a legit lab
Any updates man?
You know I haven’t had a chance to test it yet. I got three test and I knocked one over testing some other stuff I’m currently using so I have to get more but all my communication. With Osgear swears it’s a good batch
Hey did it work? Cuz I have bunch of 9772 too
please share your findings
What is the second vial?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I didn't notice anywhere in the post that explains what the other vial is.
Good question! My fault....Thats my current Ultima Test E250 vial. Golden colorish, Im comparing it to the bunk test which is clear like water. Showing theres a visible change.
It seems it gets much worse….
I’ve got batch MTO09879 (one of the first two batches listed on Ultima’s apology) with a manufacture date of Jan-2026 (apparently they couldn’t be bothered to include a specific day)
I think you said above you believed that batch# was from June 15 2025? Was the same batch number used twice?
How this goes on for 7 months of manufacturing and 8 months before it comes to light is astonishing.
The batches have unique numbers each, but the Date was the same on 2. Then a 3rd 5 days later.
None of it makes sense
If you can, it'd be worth sending in what you have for testing - the more data points we have the better. You're right that it seems very unlikely that anything produced on that day (or that general time frame) is good
The longer you are in the Steroid game, the more you realise its purely about the money for many Labs - there is no consideration given for the end users health. If you look at any Brand New Steroid Lab new to the scene, their initial products and Batch runs are always BRILLIANT!! The gear always feels potent and slightly overdosed, everything feels as it should do. This quickly gains them a new fan base and clientele within 6 months to 1 year. Then buy that same gear after 1 year and you will see EACH and every time that the product quality has got worse!! Seen it many times over. Why you may ask??? Because the Labs get greedy and chase the profit margins - SO they begin sourcing the RAW powders at cheaper prices, and of course cheaper powders mean inferior products and quality of RAW. I've questioned this many times over the years as to why products have got worse - of course I get the predictable answer of the RAW's are still the same when even Stevie Wonder can see they aren't - Don't piss in my pocket and tell me its raining Lol
I can think of three that have been consistent for 12 years or more. Big labs in here that don’t advertise as much. You know who the are too. You been here a long time like me
Honestly mate, I cannot think of any Labs that are as good as they were back then.
Well put @press1 ….i do not understand why people can’t come to the same conclusion as what you said . Thanks for the input brother . Take care and I’ll be around. I hadn’t been to active on here lately and come back to this madness.
I would say this happened because each Batch No. is not assigned to one particular batch of powder, as we know often labels are just merely stuck on and not really relevant to anything at all - it just makes it look as if there are individual batch runs coming out and things are monitored more closely and safely, when it is likely all 3 batches could be made from the same bad powder that was brought in. I think often manufacturers look at Steroid users as thick and that we don't really know what is going on, so we just buy any old story thats given to us.
Dkoon211I have my raws coming, you better your ass im testing that. I feel like a storm is coming, and I want to be ready.
I hate this has happened . Personally wouldn’t touch it considering it’s our health and not worth the risk of wrecking your hormones or other issues . They have lost all trust in the consumer at this point and I wouldn’t believe anything they say at this point. Sucks for all the sources as well. Hell if I was a source I would be getting together and requesting a credit back or something since it is their customers like yourself that is having to take the hit.
Either way keep us posted. Everyone will have a different opinion. Keep up the hard work and wish you best