just goes to show how much the serum levels vary individual to individual.what is really going to tell the tale is IGF results for each individual. What are you going to be running yours at and what protocol will you be using to pull your IGF? How much per day, split or all single dose, and how long will you be running before pulling Bloods?
20ng 40ng 60ng (GH Serum) using the same Black Top kits. Seems the numbers are inconstent other than they are all elevated (DK Blue Top ranged from 8-30ish)
KIG Said:
But if one vial contained both gh and igf level:
one vial contained 5iu gh+some igf, one injection will show low serum level, and igf level elevated.
one vial contained 10iu gh+some igf, one injection will show high serum level, and igf level elevated.
Black Top with 20ng result has more IGF1 and less HGH in the vial Black Top with 60ng result has more HGH and less IGF1 in the vial (This is according to KIGs scientific theory )
(Each individual kit (vial), regardless of color top, has produced a different "number")
but the serum level tell us directly if the vial dosed good or low.
So according to KIG, each individual vial (Blue Tops, Black Tops, Green tops) is dosed differently and is a IGF1/HGH mix? Wow. So if he ever finds the "quality vial" through all this GH Serum testing......how can he be sure the next "Batches" are the same. WaaDaaFaaaa
BroScience at it's finest right dare!
just goes to show how much the serum levels vary individual to individual.
Exactly. They just vary. Not to mention plenty of the low results do not get posted. Low but elevated serums can still produce high IGF1
what is really going to tell the tale is IGF results for each individual.
If you look at the recent IGFs posted.... 3-3.5IUs (300+ng) 4IUs (400+ng)
(I don't believe an entire vial was injected for these test results)
Those results seem more realistic and consistent to the dose (IGF1 reflects Mg/IU)
Maybe not as exciting as a GH Serum 50ng or 65ng (advertisement)
But more realistic
Whatever your IGF1 results are on these Black Tops
5IUs - 497ng/mL
5IUs - 657ng/mL
It will just confirm IGF1 testing (minus the entire vial inject) is the better test
Maybe KIG will "see the light"
I understand he says this is how he's always done testing to insure "quality", but,
Given the history of "Generics"..... inconstent blood work = inconsistent product
I either do late afternoon or early morning inj to run igf .im gonna be taking 5iu ed 3 weeks .i have to test gh for blue tops later today, then ill start the 5iu ed with black tops
I think the mods were saying they don't want to keep seeing sources put up their own serum/igf tests from random ass people. They are wanting more of us as part of the community to be running the tests ourselves --> no bias
Rustyhooker21 is a good number.
Should post your dose and procedure before test. 10 iu? 50 iu?
P2i2tjust goes to show how much the serum levels vary individual to individual.what is really going to tell the tale is IGF results for each individual. What are you going to be running yours at and what protocol will you be using to pull your IGF? How much per day, split or all single dose, and how long will you be running before pulling Bloods?
So the results were (approx):
20ng 40ng 60ng (GH Serum) using the same Black Top kits. Seems the numbers are inconstent other than they are all elevated (DK Blue Top ranged from 8-30ish)
KIG Said:
Black Top with 20ng result has more IGF1 and less HGH in the vial
)
Black Top with 60ng result has more HGH and less IGF1 in the vial
(This is according to KIGs scientific theory
(Each individual kit (vial), regardless of color top, has produced a different "number")
So according to KIG, each individual vial (Blue Tops, Black Tops, Green tops) is dosed differently and is a IGF1/HGH mix? Wow. So if he ever finds the "quality vial" through all this GH Serum testing......how can he be sure the next "Batches" are the same. WaaDaaFaaaa
BroScience at it's finest right dare!
Exactly. They just vary. Not to mention plenty of the low results do not get posted. Low but elevated serums can still produce high IGF1
If you look at the recent IGFs posted.... 3-3.5IUs (300+ng) 4IUs (400+ng)
(I don't believe an entire vial was injected for these test results)
Those results seem more realistic and consistent to the dose (IGF1 reflects Mg/IU)
Maybe not as exciting as a GH Serum 50ng or 65ng (advertisement)
But more realistic
Whatever your IGF1 results are on these Black Tops
5IUs - 497ng/mL
5IUs - 657ng/mL
It will just confirm IGF1 testing (minus the entire vial inject) is the better test
Maybe KIG will "see the light"
I understand he says this is how he's always done testing to insure "quality", but,
Given the history of "Generics"..... inconstent blood work = inconsistent product
His testing is flawed
With this kind of clear thinking you have on this subject I wish you were a source bro. We'd be getting consistent growth for sure.
AnonNo body doubt your knowleage at gh.
your answer is Garble from me. test serum level is only the first step and we are now testing igf level.
hunteron20sI either do late afternoon or early morning inj to run igf .im gonna be taking 5iu ed 3 weeks .i have to test gh for blue tops later today, then ill start the 5iu ed with black tops
Be careful posting this the mods dont want these test kits posted no more
Why don't you mind your own business? That is not what we said.
Ok i guess im confused
I think the mods were saying they don't want to keep seeing sources put up their own serum/igf tests from random ass people. They are wanting more of us as part of the community to be running the tests ourselves --> no bias
Or at least be clear that if it is gifted fur testing. Instead payed for like most people would be.
Ok got it thanks for clarifying that darth