posted Tue, 03/10/2015 - 14:06
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+ 3 can hcg fix this ??blood work after almost 4 months off .
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I need professional advise please.I pulled bloods almost 2 months ago and saw my test levels low so i ran hcg and obviously it was bunk or my body isnt responding to this ?.
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AnonMaybe I missed this in all the posts below but were your pct products pharmacy grade or not?
hunteron20sNope :( .
AnonOuch...research chems or ugl?
hunteron20sUgl ..im gonna get my hands on hmg hcg nolva and clomid and attempt this again ..the most costly pct ever lol..but my balls and body are worth it
AnonLesson learned the hard way man, good luck
cozy1How do you feel? How's your size maintaining?
hunteron20sMore joint pain and weaker a lil bit ..arms good .chest size is less other than that im good .im pushing through it and cranking my workouts to focus on that
https://www.eroids.com/pics/reboot-bloods-dragon-pharm
this is what i did, but you might need a more aggressive pct.
hunteron20sWell my test and lh are my concerns .your lh was high but your fsh was low .thats a tad bit different then my issue .
Toremifene works great get clomid nolva hcg uses dr scally power pct protocol re do pct n use d asparctic acid u can get at a vitamin store or online i would use triptorelin if ur really worried none of the above would work go pharma
Try this man Triptorelin, i've never used before but it seems like a good product @ only 100mcg guys have recovered completely. just be sure to get the real pharma.
hunteron20sI dont even know where to find that ..im gonna try a hcg and nolva pct .just tryn to find legit stuff and time off till i am normal levels then take more time off after that .i plan to have kids so i gotta recover correctly before i run gear again ..sux i got burned on crappy nolva and hcg ..
dont forget clomid!!!!! and make sure you stop hcg before you use nolva/clomid
hunteron20sWell i have clomid .the pct for my results are a lil different .im still looking into this .but i have to get the hcg and nolva 1st ..i thank everyone for their input as well as you .i dont believe in bad input .i just look at it as it is ..
keep us posted! hope you get everything square
hunteron20sIm gonna pull bloods in 8 weeks again .i will post and let people see if it worked or not ..
hunteron20sI agree on not going to a endo .the reason they will put me on trt like most guys i know here in my city.the stay off gear is ok by me .my health is 1st and working out. Gear is just to enhance so i can take longer off no biggie .i dont loose to much being off ..thanks
rocketballzBunk or underdosed pct meds appear to be the culprit. The numbers here could represent a bunch of different things, but I'm no doctor. Do you know what your baseline total test number is? If you were low to begin with than this is just confirmation of that, but you're still a young guy so I am guessing bunk pct meds.
If this were me, and I realize it's not, I would get my hands on some pharma pct meds ASAP and try a full 4 week pct again....100/100/40/40, etc. If that doesn't work I would talk to my doctor or go to an endo. Like Beast said I don't think hcg will fix this. Maybe a Band-Aid type of fix but I doubt that's what you are looking for. Good luck and thanks for posting. Please keep us updated. +1
hunteron20sWell i was taking adex while on and i had 90 estro levels so i took aromasin to kill that ..the pct was nolva and clomid the usual dosing .i started the clomid at 100 for the 1st week though then lowered it .i took bloods after for ifg and gh to test but got another full panel just cuase .i saw my test was low and estro was too then so i ran 1000 iu a day for a week .the reason was thats all the hcg i had at that time .i know that wasnt smart but hcg is hard to come by that is legit it seems
in my estimation a couple of things could have happened... can you fill us in below:
your pct gear was under dosed or complete crap. There is a sign that your body is trying to come back with your FSH on the low end of the scale. Your test is obviously low and so is LH, so my first guess is your pct was trash
what cycle were you coming off of (length, gear ran, time off before pct began)
how long has it been since you finished pct
and this may be obvious but what was your pct protocol?
Once we know this we can help more. Looks like you may need to do a hardcore reboot with some pharma grade gear but can't say unless we know above info. BTW HCG wont get you going again. Its nice to have to blast before pct but 1000iu for a week won't do much with out a good pct following it
You wrote where I was heading. My guess is that he has some severely underdosed/ bunk UGL clomid and nova. If you look he did answer my question about his pct protocal but hasn't commented on the nova and clomid.
said he took 100 of clomid for a week then lowered so i am not sure what his idea of standard is... kinda worries me that he has sooo much karma but is having a pretty basic issue. not trying to blast him but just makes me curious. hope OP responds to my questions so we can help him out
hunteron20sOk if you looked i run bloods alot .my baseline was 594 .i ran a bulk in 2013 ebc for winter bulker .i did exactly same pct but i had hcg on deck .i did recover 100% so my issue now is i took same clomid from time before .the nolva was different this time .and bunk or not enough hcg but i lean towards bunk .due to pregnancy test showed not pregnant. I asked about the hcg solely becuase the lh levels are cuasing the low estro and in return the low t ..my last cycle was 16 weeks .it was sustanon and deca then swapped to test prop and npp towards the end to try to help recovery and obviously i see that didn't work. so all this should help you out .if not ask away ..but i did same dose of pct .now the dose was 100mg clomid 1st week then 50mg after becuase it is a 50mg gelcap.the nolva i ran 40mg then dropped to 20mg .
If i were you, I would consider redoing PCT. Get some good HCG, blast that at 1000iu EOD, then begin PCT. I like to run clomid 200/150/100/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. If that does not work then I would see a doctor. But i would consider changing your pct gear. Get name brand stuff so you know its quality. Not saying what you had before didn't work but who knows, maybe it was old and degraded its potency down. I have no clue. Thats what I would do.
look up MegaT883 on here, he knows just about everything there is about bloods
Was the clomid and nova UGL or pharma? Also if I'm reading this correctly you tested bloods after pct? What were your levels after pct or is this just that? Sorry a little confused on the 2 tests you ran and when you ran them
hunteron20sOk cycle was done thanksgiving weekend .so i waited 2 weeks then started 4 week pct.i ran bloods a few weeks after pct .the bloods posted i just took .
What was your PCT protocal? What was your protocal for the hcg you recently did?