posted Mon, 05/10/2021 - 18:50
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Everything was packaged nicely and it all looks great so I appreciate the opportunity, but if I am to be real honest, I pinned 1CC last week and probably won't touch this stuff again. My glute is still red hot, swollen, and itchy. Its somewhat better now but the pip (and probably infection) literally kept me bed ridden for 2 days with chills and body aches. I've seen others expressing similar discomfort with DP's stuff, but I've used their TestE in the past with no issues so figured it would be fine.
So all in all, not my best experience with DP. If anyone would like to discuss further, I'd be happy to.
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Im shocked ive seen more of the cyp crashed then this high mg stuff
Ya, cyp is actually notorious for crashing. There’s a few reasons, but really it’s about the difference in the chemistry of test C vs test E. But there are ways to try to avoid it on the user end as well as the lab side. But on our end of it, try to keep the temp stabile swings in temp can cause it, so can shaking it, a little swirl is ok, but shaking it (which often happens during shipping) is another cause. Also if you’re like me, and push air into your bottle before you draw you dose, that can also cause it... cuz it adds pressure to the bottle. But just cuz it crashes doesn’t mean that it’s not good or that it’s a ugl, pharmaceutical cyp crashes too. I just put water on the stove on low heat, and dip the bottle in it and swirl it around a bit- problem solved. Doesnt effect potency or anything. As long as you don’t over heat it you’re fine.
AnonThe test cyp batch they used in the promo was measured at 290mg/ml sold as 250. They added too much hormone for sure so most people are getting several crashed vials, myself included. I put them on a wax warmer scent thingy (no wax...) And swirl it around a bit. The ratios are off no doubt but if you're mixing which most are, then there won't be any problem. A little masteron in mct and she's golden
Sounds like a plan.
Why is everyone talking about PIP like it’s an ingredient?? PIP is “post injection pain”.... the BA is what causes the pain, what happens is BA is used as a solvent and as a way to keep bacteria from growing in your batch. But it doesn’t take much to be effective, BB is the main solvent used, but it’s a bit more expensive. So between the cost savings of using more BA and less BB, and that some mixtures require more BA than others (or so they say) ...BA=Benzyl Alcohol and BB= Benzyl Benzoate... so if you’ve ever had a bottle of gear crystallize on you (which is easily fixed you just have to put it in hot water and swirl it a bit), you’ll know that the actual compounds (powder/raw) is a crystal, so when you inject a high doses compound there’s more crystalline particles in it, and often more BA. What happens is the BA gets absorbed by our body much faster than BB does, which leaves these crystalline particles behind, kinda like when it falls out of suspension in your bottle. So these crystalline particles are what causes the pain, and it takes a while for your body to break it down and absorb it. Slightly higher BB concentrations will usually reduce or eliminate that PIP. There are lots of sides related to BA and BB.. higher levels of BB are what causes tren cough. There’s a good article about tren cough and how it’s almost common with acetates than enanthates. And any oil based gear can cause what’s called POME, pulmonary oil micro embolism. Which is where oil gets into your blood stream and travels to your lungs which on the less severe side causes you to have coughing fits, but it can also trigger anaphylaxis, and tho rarely- it can be life threatening. Usually treated with antihistamines and pro promethazine, sometimes epinephrine (epi-pen). Just do your research, always aspirate before injecting! I like to push a small amount and wait 30 seconds or so, and if I still feel normal then slowly push the rest. And I typically inject 1.5-2ml’s of test at a clip, depending on the cycle sometimes 2x a week. So just be safe, listen to your body, use sterile injection practices (swab the stopper on the bottle before and after drawing up a shot, I use a new needle to draw from the bottle, and then I switch it with another new needle for my injection. And I always swab the shit out of the injection site before I do, AND I usually do it right after a hot shower. Don’t do that shit at the gym while you’re all sweaty and wonder why you got an abscess in your ass!! and monitor any PIP to watch for infection. Happy lifting gentlemen summer is almost here!!!
Anon... Who TF are you?
Why? Does it make a difference who I am?
AnonNot many new guys spew out brewing knowledge on the first day lol and no, it doesn't matter as long as you keep up the solid advice!
So your saying crashed gear will REcrash in the muscle in a sense, then the body absorbs the crystals??
No, I was just using the crashed gear as an example. Saying that since we’ve all seen gear that’s crashed forms crystals, we all know that when it’s not in suspension it’s a crystal. So when you get PIP it’s USUALLY due to the BA being absorbed by your body and essentially leaving the crystals behind which causes the pain. That’s not the only thing that causes pip, some people are sensitive to BA, some are sensitive to BB... could also be that u pushed too fast, or too much. That’s why most people say not to push more than 2ml’s in a single pin. Cuz it can cause bruising. There’s lots of different things that can cause PIP. But when it happens from every shot I take, it’s typically the BA to blame.
When the source warns you it may contain PIP, it probably contains a fair old amount of PIP!
I got those sides from the 350 blend a couple of years ago, hopefully Tbone’s advice works for you. If it doesn’t unfortunately like me, high mg/ml gear isn’t for you.
Ha that’s what I was thinking lol. I was like damn if DP is telling you it’s bad then it’s probabbbly BAD lol
Not my cup of tea but there are some savages on her who can inject 1ml< of it and face 0 consequences.
Send it to me please
There’s also a good chance it’s closer to 375-400mg. That’s gunna have a nice little bite to it.
Bigun2My Cyp was 16% over, so that same 16% would put this at a 406mg blend. Definitely going to have a bite!
AnonYeah he specified the pip issue, you'll need to mix it with another compound if you want to use it.
Those higher test mixes are better used by mixing with a lesser compound like test 250 or even just sterile oil.
It's extremely common to have a large amount of discomfort when injecting high concentration gear like you have there. Mix a half cc with a whole cc of something else (not high mg) and it'll be significantly better.
Awesome insight man, much appreciated! I was thinking the worst but this definitely makes sense. Learned something new today. Will give it another go under better conditions and see how things fare.
Bigun2This is solid advice. These high mg Test oils are great if you’re running a multiple compound cycle and trying to cut down on total volume of oil injected per week. As a stand-alone product they’re pretty rough.
AnonI've run across one source that had a test 400 with minimal pip solo, not a blend though.
DP sust 270 hurts my ass too much for a solo run...fuck that.
Bigun2I seem to recall him saying “be aware, this has a significant amount of PIP” when he ran the promo.
If he did, my mistake for missing it. But even so, never would have expected something this rough. My only thoughts were possibly doing half CC at a time if anything.
Anon99% of testosterone concentrated over 250mg/ml will have pip, the higher you go the more pip there is to be expected. 100% completely normal.
Wish we could have helped sooner! Keep an eye on the site for sign of infection, it's probably not but do take caution.