posted Wed, 12/18/2013 - 08:34
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+ 7 Disappointing IGF results from Viptropin (Vips)
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I Just got labwork done and I must say I'm pretty shocked with these results. I've been on Double G's Vips for the past 6 weeks @ 4iu/day continously taken at 2iu AM/PM. I'm a nurse so I'm pretty sure I've done all the prep correctly. Stored in the fridge etc etc. I was expecting at least 300+ considering I felt some sides like tingling and numb fingers/feet. I have also lost at least 2% body fat. I was really hoping for better numbers.....I hope someone can provide constructive insight into this. Maybe something was off about this test.
Double G, you're a great guy and I know you stand by all your products, maybe I'm just missing something?
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If thats the case then I'm looking forward to my 11/2013 batch results :-)
Honestly bud, I'm not trying to get anything. I'll pay for my own retest. In fact, if the retest comes back elevated @5iu then I will continue to buy from you. If not, then we'll have to talk then.
DOUBLE G 67IM HERE FOR YOU BRO.....
IMO, that is the issue with running IGF-1. There are many variables that can effect IGF-1 output in relation to HGH input.
Did you Fast for the test?
I have had mid 200 IGF-1 results for the 3-4 IGF-1 tests I've done so far, with varying doses and varying manufactures without fasting! I will Fast for my next IGF-1 tests to see the difference.
For the most part IGF-1 numbers have been very consistant across the board here. Whether it was sero's Nord's, Rips or even Hyges. Your case on that last test is a head scratcher. I for one trust IGF way more than any GH test. We all know the GH test can be manipulated with peptides.
I have seen plenty of evidence that GG stands proudly behind his product and I don't take this as an indictment against his character. We should just use due diligence and get some more tests to be certain.
All of the IGF-1 Tests I have ran came in at the mid 200 range like 230's to 260's. That was on 3 different brands and 3 different dosing protocols! The consistent thing was me not fasting! I will test that theory next!
Right on!
DOUBLE G 67I TRUST GORILLAFIT..HE HAS TESTED MY PRODUCTS ALL ALONG...WEVE HAD SOME GOOD,SOME BAD..,BUT HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN STRAIGHT WITH ME,NO MATTER WHAT THE RESULTS
And always will be Brother! The results are the results. Finding out why we get the results is important. Like I said, I have read many studies regarding IGF-1 being effected by things as simple as food intake, exercise, Liver issues..... The IGF-1 #s by themselves don't tell the whole story!
This is crazy. My igf levels were at 372 when I was running 4 iu's
When was test and where you on vips?
This test was from a couple months ago, and yes it was from VIPs. Obviously a different batch but still surprising
I've had blood test error before...a retest will confirm error or confirm the results
DOUBLE G 67http://www.eroids.com/pics/head-to-head-vips-vs.-rips-comparison-igf-1-l...
THIS IS LESS THAN 4 MONTHS AGO..WE HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR PROCESS,ALTHOUGH I WOULD ASSUME SOME SLIGHT FLUCTUATIONS WILL OCCUR,AS IN ANY PREPARATION.
losing bodyfat could be from anything really. You can lose body fat from diet or other things. 4iu should be a good enough dose to at least elevate igf especially if you took for 6 weeks straight.
interesting
one thing that comes to mind is tingly hands, sleeping good and sides like that could also come from peptides. there was a member here who was taking jintropin with the exact same sides and thought it was real then got igf taken and the results were the same as yours, not elevated at all.
GG is a good dude that stands by his products, this test doesn't do anything bad to his rep. I guess in situation like this you have to see if other users can get igf tests done that are also on VIP's. this will show if there is any trend or maybe you just had a bad batch
I agree and I'm giving Double G the benefit of the doubt. I'm not making any demands for refunds (I still have 2 kits left!), I'm not making accusations. I do encourage other users to get tested...just for your own peace of mind.
This is a shock to me as well. I have few friends on the VIPS and they are getting great results. I wish I could get one of the cheap asses to go get blood work. I cant even get them to take a precycle blood test. Its like they are scared of needles or something. I hope someone that has been running VIPS for a while runs out and gets a test and post the results.
I agree. I have honestly never heard anyone complain about them and the price is good, but I also have not seen the IGF1 numbers on them either. Even the one below, he states what they were but no picture.
448 in one. I just got off the phone last night with a friend of mine and all he talked about was VIPS. I have to see another test before I can draw a conclusion. It could be a lot of things that went wrong from gg to member. I hope this is just a rare case.
DOUBLE G 67ITS OBVIOUSLY A RARE CASE..SCROLL THROUGH AND SEE THE TESTS..WE EVEN HAD ONE TEST THAT CAME BACK LOW,WE PAYED FOR A RETEST AND THE RESULTS WERE THROUGH THE ROOF..REAL WORLD RESULTS DONT LIE BRO...I STAND BEHIND EVERYTHING I SELL...IS IT POSSIBLE WE MESSED UP A BATCH?? I GUESS NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE BUT ITS HIGHLY IMPROBABLE
I am not saying bad batch from you. That is possible as well. I am saying from the time it leaves your hands to the time it gets in customers hands could cause problems. I want a REVOTE! lol another test needs to be done.
DOUBLE G 67THATS A GOOD POINT TOO..I HATE TO THINK THIS IS A BLATANT ATTACK ON MY IMPECCABLE REP HERE..I CAN POST REVIEW AFTER REVIEW ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE VIPS...REAL GUYS,REAL RESULTS
Product effectivenes and experience
I've been using the vips for about a month, 2iu ed. I've been sleeping like a freaking baby. I have been getting slight water retention, numbness, and tingling in my hands. But that's a good thing, it tells me i'm running some potent stuff! I can't wait to order more, so I can bump the doseage up more and use it for what it's intended for.... Building muscle!!
RIght off the bat, I said this was not an attack. You gotta remember in manufacturing a product, many things can go wrong; and additionally, many factors come into play from the time its shipped.
I'll tell yea what I've never ordered from you. Send me 2-3 kits of VIPs and I'll get bloods post results,Etc..... Will that get everyone to shut up !!! Everyone knows I tell it how it is !! Bloods don't lie ! However you can really mess up your blood results just from diet alone ! Not including all the other factors !!! If he's a nurse this is a piss poor post !!
I will too!!
I was one of the 1st ones to buy from you. I have followed you from the beginning and I know you take care of business. Your products have always been great. I have heard nothing but great things about VIPS. With as much as you sell I would think there would be a 100 posts just like this if there was a problem. The thing is 1 bad review covers 100 good. So what I want is someone else to get blood work done say tomorrow and post results. If I was on the vips I would sure do it.
Same here.
DOUBLE G 67http://www.eroids.com/pics/gorilla-gear-vips-gh-serum-igf-1-labs-for-47-...
http://www.eroids.com/pics/gorilla-gears-vip-kit-lab-test-results
DOUBLE G 67MAYBE IM MISSING SOMETHING..WEVE HAD TONS OF BLOODS AND IGF'S DONE WITH GREAT #'S..WE HAVE LITERALLY 1000'S OF PEOPLE ON THEM(INCLUDING ME) WITH PHENOMENAL RESULTS..WE HAVE 2 PROS AND SEVERAL PRO CONTENDERS ON THEM..IM NO SCIENTIST SO I RELY ON MY PEEPS TELLING ME IF THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT....OVER 20,000 KITS SOLD..IF YOU SCROLL BACK THROUGH THESE LAB TESTS YOULL SEE MANY MANY TESTS ON THESE...IS 6 WEEKS LONG ENOUGH FOR ACCURATE TESTING?? I DONT KNOW..HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE FAT LOSS ?? IT SEEMS THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOIING..NO???
Dam Chinese left out the igf in this batch of clever peptide combinations.
I was curious about the Vips, not so much now. Hopefully some others will get tested so we can verify.
I have 2 more kits from him so I will retest again soon.