posted Wed, 12/18/2013 - 08:34
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+ 7 Disappointing IGF results from Viptropin (Vips)
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I Just got labwork done and I must say I'm pretty shocked with these results. I've been on Double G's Vips for the past 6 weeks @ 4iu/day continously taken at 2iu AM/PM. I'm a nurse so I'm pretty sure I've done all the prep correctly. Stored in the fridge etc etc. I was expecting at least 300+ considering I felt some sides like tingling and numb fingers/feet. I have also lost at least 2% body fat. I was really hoping for better numbers.....I hope someone can provide constructive insight into this. Maybe something was off about this test.
Double G, you're a great guy and I know you stand by all your products, maybe I'm just missing something?
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DOUBLE G 67I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT IF THIS WAS IN FACT A BAD BATCH AND ANYONE WHO DOES TESTS OR GENUINELY FEELS CHEATED I WILL SEND FRESH KITS TO...I KNOW THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM OUR VIPS AND WE HAVE PROS AND NEWBS RUNNING THEM WITH GREAT SUCCESS..THEY HAVE CHANGED MANY MANY LIVES...IM NOT HERE TO RIP ANYONE OFF OR SAY THEY ARE ASSHOLES OR ATTACK ANYONE..WE NEED TO DO TESTS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON POINT AND NOT FUCKING UP!! WE HAD BLOOD TESTS THAT CAME IN LOW THEN THE RETEST WAS SKYHIGH,SO IM NOT SURE WHY THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES...WE DO OUR BEST TO KEEP OUR HIGH QUALITY CONSISTENT IN ALL OUR PRODUCTS
WithdrawlIf it wasn't refrigerated I think this is pretty unfair to you GG. This should be totally redone.
Thanks, Double G --- I know you stand by your products, which is why I'm not asking for a refund on the 2 kits I have left. And as stated, I'm not trying to get over on free shit cause thats not what I'm after. I want an effective product. My suggestion is if you have any 10/2013 batches left over then you should test them.
DOUBLE G 67NOW IF IN FACT STORAGE WAS THE ISSUE,HOW DO WE KNOW THE NEWER KITS YOU HAVE ARENT TAINTED TOO??
Because I just got them 3 days ago. They can be unrefrigerated for up to 28 days right? They are now in the fridge. All of them.
DOUBLE G 67OH BEAUTIFUL!!!! I GET THEM IN DAYS,AND ALWAYS SHIP SAME DAY..OUR TOTAL SHIPPING TIMES ARE ABOUT A WEEK TO YOU,SO THATS GOOD!
beyondimportsCould've been a weak batch. It happens. I definitely felt the last set I got was stronger. I had been running 15iu for nearly two months then the new batch had my hands numb again. I've never had an igf test that low. I get routine bloods every 3 months. Due up here soon, i can post them. I am only on 5iu since almost out
Yeah that would be great man. Definitely more current labs to compare to. :-)
beyondimportsAt 4iu, one box would last you 25 days. If that box was bad, that's more than long enough to plummet your igf. Could've been storage before it even got to you. I'd like to see a test on a new box.
Definitely could've been a storage issue, but what? I've kept these in a dry room at room temp and constituted them 1 at a time then refrigerated it. I've posted up an additional pic of the vial that I have left with the batch made in 10/2013 -- I have 2 more kits from the 11/2013 batch. I will go through these and retest.
AnonSo you did not keep them in a fridge at all times?
Only the one vial I constituted. The rest were stored at a cool, dry room with no light.
WithdrawlOh man you HAVE TO REFRIGERATE!!! There's your problem. I think you should edit this and retest after a couple months on kits you actually refrigerate like you're supposed to. This makes GG look bad when you don't take care of your HGH properly. Not trying to rag on you and not trying to sound pissed, I just think you maybe edit this and try it again by keeping your kits from degrading.
beyondimportsHad my bloods drawn last week. Once I've got the igf I'll post it.
DOUBLE G 67THANKS BRO! WE ALL CAME TOGEHTER ON THIS THREAD AND FIGURED OUT THEY WERE MOST LIKELY STORED INCORRECTLY,,RAY WILL BE RETESTING AND THEN WE CAN SEE...
Anonyour super duper late lol
AnonThere is your problem. Hgh will degrade very fast if not kept I the fridge. So you very well could have felt the sides in the beginning like you said. But it will degrade and so will the quality. In fact I have read in forums that after 28 days they can become a severely degraded. My point is by the end of your box it has been not fridge for over a month considering the fact it also has not been kept cool during shipping.
DOUBLE G 67WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF HIS KITS?? HE IS RETESTING BUT THEY WERENT REFRIGERATED EITHER
AnonIf they weren't kept in the fridge they are going to be in a worse state the the rest
The most recent batch: 11/2013 I received 3 days ago so we're good. They are in the fridge now.
AnonNice. I will be testing vips in a few months. The sides you got were most likely real. As you you went through the kit they lost more potency with each vial hence the most likely reason for your poor testing.
How can xxxxx stay unrefrigerated during shipping ?
xxxx was formulated specifically to withstand being out of refrigeration for 28 days without getting ruined. It's just important to place it in the refrigerator once you receive it and avoid exposure to light, heat or extreme temperatures. Simply store in the fridge as soon as you get it.
beyondimportsI store everything in the fridge. At all times. That could very well be the issue
DOUBLE G 67I DO TOO!! MY CRISPER TRAY IS FULL OF GH!! NO FUCKING VEGGIES IN THERE BRO..SO ITS A POSSIBILITY,IN YOUR OPINION,NOT KEEPING THEM COOL COULD ALTER TESTS>????
That is a very important piece of information. I also store all HGH in the fridge as soon as it gets to my hands.
AnonI know you didn't ask for mine but I'll give it to you anyway. Yes not keeping it in the fridge can cause it to loose potency quite fast.
DOUBLE G 67I WAS GETTING TO YOU TOO BRO!!! I FOLLOW YOU ,BET!
since when did you have to be asked for your opinion? lol
AnonHahhaha just being polite. Especially cuz that big old gorilla goes ape shit sometimes hahhaha
DOUBLE G 67IM OFF-CYCLE BRO...IM TAME AS A KITTEN!! LOL
AnonHere kitty kitty kitty
hell yes. It is very fragile.
AnonExtremely fragile.
So store them all, even non-constituted ones?
yes. as soon as you get them
I bought a mini fridge I put by my bed.Just for HGH.
AnonGor one too
Mystery solved. Next!
DOUBLE G 67LIKE I SAID BRO,I ALWAYS OFFER TO REIMBURSE FOR TESTS AND I PROMISE YOU WILL GET ON VIPS THAT WILL WORK INSANELY FOR YOU!!
DOUBLE G 67http://www.eje-online.org/content/161/suppl_1/S33.full?sid=0499e786-5844...
VERY INFORMATIVE READ
I will up my dosage to 5iu/day AM/PM and retest in 4 weeks. I have 2 more kits with different manufacture dates so will see if it was just a bad batch.
Could be ! I'm sorry that you are feeling attacked !! I see where you are coming from ! I also see both sides. !! I'm more than sure G.G will help you out with any and all issues !! I also like seeing the links guys are posting up ! We are not here to "Attack" but to help !!
BillLumbergh+1 for labs. just glad to have a bigger sample size of tests on vips on here. way less tested than rips & hyges.
I had good experiences w/ vips myself. although I tested gh serum and one came low, the other came back plenty high.
I'd change nothing and retest in a month.
Guys....as I stated, I'm not making any attacks or accusations. I'm simply posting the facts and the lab results. Yes, I fasted for this test.
DOUBLE G 67I REALIZE THIS ISNT AN ATTACK BRO,,,,THERE IS SIMPLY TOO MANY OTHER TESTS AND PRACTICAL RESULTS THAT CONTRADICT THIS...COULD WE HAVE MESSED UP A BATCH?? ITS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE,MUCH LIKE WHEN WE BREW IF SOMETHING CRASHES..WE USE THE FINEST RAWS(OUR STEROID RAWS ARE FROM THE SAME GUY)THAT CAN BE FOUND ANYWHERE AND MAKE EACH BATCH WITH UTMOST INTEGRITY.I DONT WANT ANYONE UNHAPPY,AND WE HAVE 1000'S OF CUSTOMERS WHO RUN NOTHING BUT OUR VIPTROPIN.WE WELCOME ALL TESTS,BUT WHEN WE HAVE SOOOOO MUCH INCREDIBLE FEEDBACK AND REPEAT BIZ ,IT MAKES US QUESTION THIS ,THATS ALL...NOTHING AGAINST YOU OR YOUR CHARACTER...LET ME KNOW HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED
That's very true (the incredible feedback) but it doesn't make this lab test any less credible or the idea that a possible bad batch is to blame. Happens all the time. Sometimes even intentionally. You and I both know that there are sources who put out good solid products consistently and then skimp up a bit on a batch here and there. Even selective scamming. I personally don't think that you have done this but I'm defending the OP against that statement (you're questioning his credibility,..indirectly). We also know reverse scamming is a practiced ritual in this world. Good to see you always wiling to work with your customers to keep them happy. That's the name of the game.
To the op, thanks for posting and don't let anyone make you feel like you're under attack. If you know you posted this in all honesty and kept your integrity in tact, nobody can take that from you and anyone who attacks you for sharing your experience , will have to deal with me. Or H, Vike, noid, BB or even the grand wizard if he sees it. This is what eroids is here for!
I appreciate this. That is why I trust eroids because it is a community that fosters the truth….and not antagonize people who are on the extreme end of the "bell curve" --
DOUBLE G 67I HAVE ALWAYS WELCOMED TESTS BRO AND ANYONE WILL TELL YOU IVE OFFERED TO REIMBURSE ANYONE FOR THEIR TESTS FROM DAY ONE,,,I ACKNOWLEDGED IT COULDVE BEEN A BAD BATCH,BUT I WILL NEVER EVER HAVE THAT BE THE OUTCOME OF US SKIMPING OR TRYING TO SCAM ANYONE..ID LIKE TO THINK IVE PROVEN MYSELF WELL BEYOND ANY OF THAT BS..COULD WE HAVE RUSHED THAT BATCH DUE TO HIGH VOLUME? I GUESS THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE.THE LAB EEVEN MENTIONED TO ME THIS LAST BATCH WAS VERY STRONG(JUICEDBANKER AND BEYONDIMPORTS WILL AGREE TO THAT!)SO I GUESS WE CAN HAVE FLUCTUATIONS HERE AND THERE
Yes you did but you also said it's hard to believe with all the positive feedback. Wait, why am I explaining my self to a dirty fucking smammer! You scamming fuck head!! God dammit! Ok ok JK! You sources are so defensive. Your reputation is not going to falter when you conduct business in the manner that you do. Look at the result! You handle your shit. That's how it should be. You're ok in my book. As long as you don't use caps when replying to me. I feel the wolf coming out as I'm reading. Like I wana fight
DOUBLE G 67Naw bro...Im just too fucking lazy to turn the caps lock on and off all the time!!! Never any disrespect meant towards anyone!! especially you BIG DAWGS!!