DHB Base
New DHB Base from Karl. Proper labels have not arrived yet but wanted to get the first pic up. Will be dosing 1ml 2 hours pre wo tomorrow morning and hitting chest.
Usually do tne or suspension pre wo so will be comparing initial effects to that. Full review will be up in a few weeks detailing physical changes. Will update on pip in the next few days as well.
UPDATE1:
Flowed easy through a 25g. Slight ache/burn for 2 hours after pin but nothing im not used to from tne/suspension. Once i got warmed up in the gym it went away.
Workout was great as always, added abs and calves to my chest/tri routine today, finally left after 2 hours. Purely as a pre wo its still to early to tell, strength and motivation was great as always (similar to tne) but that is to be expected. Leaning out so vascularity improves each day but today was much more noticeable. Im dealing with significantly elevated E2 levels so everything is bit sluggish but even with that it was still a fantastic session.
UPDATE2:
PIP is manageable, site is sore and tender to the touch, but not red or hot. Its slightly worst than tne and suspension. Going forward i will be mixing each pin with Test E to help dilute.
To early to tell physical changes but this shit is potent as hell, i like what im seeing. More details next week.
UPDATE3:
I could not handle the pip, tried cutting with other oil but didnt help me much. Some shots were tolerable (similar to tne or tren base) and others left a 10 day knot in my quad leaving it useless. Never any swelling, heat, or redness.
12 hours after each shot i would come down with a fever of around 101, my body did not react well to something in the solution. After 2-3 days of successive pre workout shots and I had full blown flue like symptoms.
Others did not get the fever so I toughed it out for a few weeks to see if my body would adjust to it but it never did.
As a pre workout it easily tops Tren base. Strong as hell just didnt react well with me.
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Sounds exactly like what happens to me with pure eo as the carrier oil. I'm allergic to it and that's exactly what happens to me everytime.
That would make sense. Damn shame cuz this stuff was awesome!
FortySIXand2Why is the PIP so bad? anyone know?
I was allergic to something in it, pip for others has not been nearly as bad as mine.
How’s this working out for you bro?
I could not handle the pip, tried cutting with other oil but didnt help me much. Some shots were tolerable (similar to tne or tren base) and others left a 10 day knot in my quad leaving it useless. Never any swelling, heat, or redness.
12 hours after each shot i would come down with a fever of around 101, my body did not react well to something in the solution. After 2-3 days of successive pre workout shots and I had full blown flue like symptoms.
Others did not get the fever so I toughed it out for a few weeks to see if my body would adjust to it but it never did.
jayiskwhere you taking daily shots or just PWO?
i've got 3 bottles of the base and only been able to take one 1 ml shot PWO thus far and didnt exp. any PIP.
hopefully it stays that way.
Just pre workout. How long ago was that shot?
From talking to Karl it sounds like im extra sensitive to something in the solution.
Could be that or my body was just rejecting the DHB in general as it was my first time using the compound.
Im running DHB cyp right now with zero issues. Will give the base another shot down the road to see if it was a fluke issue.
jayisklast week. i was expecting to feel a lump or some PIP the day or so after the shot but didn't.
thing is i was sick so i couldnt tell how effective it was as a PWO. but it did get me through my squat workout.
I recently ran DHB cyp and for me, pip was predicated by injection site. For example, glutes were no problem (little soreness a few days later but nothing that would make me think twice about it), delts were a little tougher but still very manageable for me, quads and ventro glutes were the toughest.
Its was my 1st time running DHB so I ran between 400 - 600mgs/week, landing on 500mgs for the bulk of my run. Being that I didn't want to run much more than 1mil per injection, I decided to continue using the 4 rotation sites but as I mentioned, ventro glute and quads were a little rough at times.
It also seems some people are more susceptible to pip running DHB than others. IMO, it was a great cycle that I'll probably run again at some point.
That is interesting. Everyone reacts so differently.
DHB base had me crippled, even diluting with test or eq.
DHB cyp i can pin 1.5ml in quad or vc and not feel a thing. Granted its diluted with .5ml test e and .66ml EQ but still.
jayiskonce i get over this cold i plan on taking 100 mgs of DHB base which is 2 cc's PWO. that should let me know if PIP is an issue for me.
Most of my shots were .5cc to .8cc that left me crippled. If you can handle 2cc's with minimal pip then i would say for sure its something with me specifically that is not reacting well.
jayisktook 2 cc's DHB base 100 mg in my thigh with 1 1/2 22 g needle.
this was Sat. 10/06..,today Mon 10/08 still zero PIP or any type of lump.
As for PWO i'm still sick so i didnt notice anything. Not to say its the DHB because this has happened to me with TNE while training still sick. For fawks sake i was out of breathe just doing singles on deads and thats all i did for the day beside warm up/mobility shit.
Funny cause the src is coming out with a bunch of no esters for his domestic line and put a warning not to take more and to cut the no esters with something.
Seems my cold is coming back worse.. so whenever i am healthy I will update on Dhb base for PWO and if any PIP shows up.
You didnt get any type of immediate burn after you pinned? When i hit quads if felt like i injected acid that burned from my knee to my hip for an hour or 2. Was like a throbbing/aching/burn. None of that?
jayiskA slight burn or stinging feeling that went away within a min. or 2.
jayiskwhen i do i'll let you know. i recently got crashed TNE from another src that leaves a lump in my delt for a wk. at 100 mg per 1 cc. but that is an issue with the srcs TNE.
i have another src's TNE thats 50 mgs per CC and take 2 ccs with no prob. in the delt.
Yikes i bet that felt good. I have not done more than 1cc TNE in the shoulder before, i use a 1cc 1/2" slin pin and would rather not shoot twice. Let me know brother, very curious to see how others react to the DHB base.
jayiska few wks ago i had to take 2 cc's of TNE since it is 50 mgs per cc.
i use an 18 g to draw it out and i thought i took a 25 g to inject with but it was another 18 g pin.
so with people in the house i had to shot 2 cc's of TNE in my delt with an 18 g.
OUCH
Lol that’s gonna be a bleeder
jayisklittle gusher..,lol
can actually see the hole pulling out..,no homo.., the 18 g needle
Ya Bloody animal Lol
any fever or body aches/chills 12-24 hours after the shot?
edit: you were sick so probably hard to tell
jayiskthing is i have chronic asthmatic bronchitis. but i even an ear infection and cold and it can take me 3 to 4 wks to get back to normal.
yeah but that was after i went to the gym 48 hrs after that shot. didnt make it through the whole workout but i didnt take a shot of the base. so i would say its not related. prob. needed more time off.
I want to clarify 2 things if you could
1: have you used T.N.E. or other base products with guaicol successfully in the past? I want to know if it’s the solvent or the compound your body doesn’t like.
2: you say better then Tren Base for pre, so do you say that because of added endurance/strength? Mental drive? Little of both?
Hey bearded.
Yes, no stranger to g. Ran through a few bottles of TNE before trying the DHB. Pretty sure last and first pins were a day apart. Karl mentioned a special formula/solvent for the DHB, most likely what i did not react well too.
Everything was enhanced. Strength, vascularity, pump, endurance, and mental drive. Extra mental drive is not needed much while on cycle but its still a very noticeable increase. Some days it felt like the full body pump started while walking into the gym from the parking lot. Lower back pumps were an issue.
UPDATE 3:
PIP: Started diluting with an equal amount of Test E, helped a little bit but still has a nasty bite (which is to be expected with this compound). Starting next week will be diluting with EQ as recommended to me.
PRE WO EFFECTS: I have absolutely crushed every workout this week. The extra mental and physical drive is different than you get from TNE, and MUCH more pronounced. Im struggling to describe it as its a new feeling for me but i can feel my body temp rising and then i know its go time. From there its a very focused and driven workout experience.
PHYSICAL EFFECTS: Vascularity is improving each day and im shedding fat. Will do a full writeup on physical impact after 1st bottle is gone.
Bottom line, if you can handle the jetfuel pip then expect highly focused workouts and see daily physical changes daily.
jayiskany update bud?
Thanks for reminding me, just posted one. See above.
Might be to early to tell, but any swelling/knots?
Nothing yet. Injection site actually feels pretty good right now. We will know more tomorrow.
Ewlala......can't wait to see your feedback on this!
Small update in description
Looking forward to hearing some feedback on this.
DobermannTne is the shit bro,if thats better u will be growing like crazy
O shit, i gta get in on that... excted for feedback, im having a great all sciroxx cycle
Never heard of this before will you only use it as a pre?
Yes pre only. Will not be pinning multiple times per day.
I apologize for the lack of labels, we've shipped these seperately to the domestic warehouse, and still delayed
Will be waiting eagerly for your feedback
To watch the labels - http://sciroxxonline.com/domestic-sciroxx/215-testoform-blast.html
thats gonna hurt like mfker
Karl says pip free, we’ll see. That was my first thought as well.
PIP is manageable, site is sore and tender to the touch, but not red or hot. Its slightly worst than tne and suspension. Going forward i will be mixing each pin with Test E to help dilute.
To early to tell physical changes but this shit is potent as hell, i like what im seeing. More details next week.
DobermannLets see,havent heard of pip free base yet lol
Yup! It's what separates the men from the boys. lol
DobermannHaha my ass is begging me " dont do it" ;))
im expecting a decent punch
Lol yup I was thinking the same thing
I will find out soon enough
How's it been bro? I just put in an order for their DHB Cyp. Absolutely dying to get it going.