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Hello,

180cm
65-70 kg over the last 6 years (fat gain and loss)

I have been struggling for years trying to build muscles naturally working my ass off following professional physichians workout and diets. Nothing worked for me to build muscles since I started when I was 18 (now 24.) I didn't know what wrong with me as I have been working out with my friends at the gym and we have always been obsessed about physiques and dieting. The sad story I want to share is that by today, all my friends are looking in excellent shapes, huge, defined, and like magazine ready looking bodies except me :'). I am still the scrawny guy with lots of abdominal fat and loose muscles. Through out the years I thought my friends were juicing behind my back but then I knew its all in my head. It's just me that is wrong and I started to visit some doctors when I got 20 until they recommended me to seek an endocrinologist and I did. I have done blood tests and results were:
Testosterone = 6.1 nmol/L Reference Range (6.0 - 27.1) nmol/L
Estradiol = 249 nmol/L Reference Range (73 - 275) nmo/L
Prolactin = 525 nmol/L Reference Range (57 - 281) nmol/L H

and here is the shocking part, my doctor reaction to that was... put on her glasses, stared at the results... emmm ehmmm,... "I don't see any issues there..." and the other doctor said "well, I guess the prolactin is high?" my doctor replied "not really its just a slight increase and it could be an effect of physical stress or emotional stress." then they told me just go and don't think about it cause its nothing concerning. I went to another doctor and said the same thing.

I felt hopeless and started to read on the internet a lot about everything possible that could be the cause.. for years. I know now that for my age, those results are shame! those are probably okay for a man aged 60 and above. Those Reference Ranges for the blood tests are reference intervals collected from men aged 18 to 70 years old. My age should be at least around 20 nmol/L and higher! mine is at the edge of the low testosterone values. F**k me for listening to what the doctors said to me. I wasted years at the gym not gaining over 1 pound of muscles due to how bad my endocrine system works. I have always been ashamed to take my shirt off in front of my friends who have reached their goals. I decided to start juicing as soon as possible. I also have developed natural gyno since last year and it has started hurting and itching and I will take Pramipexole or Caber along with estrogen inhibitors. I did a lot of reading and I know that naturally my body is prone to develop even worse case gyno while juicing and being very sensitive to aromatizable juices. No doctor allowed or prescribed me a HRT. I just can't realized how doctors can be so dumb and careless for their patients.

Whats your thoughts guys? experts? doctors?

-NOTE-
Testosterone is increased here from 6.1 to 11.4 after taking test boosters and herbs.
Estradiol is kinda high.
Prolactin is high.
Full Profile shows that protein is high thats due to my diet trying to eat a lot during the day along with protein shakes to increase lean muscles.
CBC.. Idk :/

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Bigguy07's picture

When you say test boosters are you referring to pro hormones? Give us a idea of what one day of food intake is for you. Also, there is no need for the Dbol. You will blow up then deflate right back to your starting point when you stop taking it

q8i's picture

test boosters like DAA + Nettle root extract + Avena Sativa +...etc.
I already explained my diet in my body picture in my profile.

fit5000's picture

Wow man, I'm sorry this is your situation at such a young age. I myself suffered from lower than average T levels that I discovered a little older than you. I know a good deal about bloodwork but not much with the nmol unit of measure so I converted your #'s to ng/dl. So you were at 175 ng/dl and managed to get it up to 320 ng/dl with test boosters and herbs, that is a considerable jump but still not very good for your age. My #'s were 290 naturally before I ever cycled but I still cycle off at this point. Trt is a big decision of course not one to be taken lightly, alot of factors in that situation that need to be considered. There has been times where I've dropped my test down to trt dosages just to see what it feels like and how my body function on normal testosterone levels and when I analyzed the difference it was night and day. When I cycle off I fall right back into that same range. Are you on testosterone currently or are you still gathering information?

q8i's picture

Great! finally someone who understands what I'm going through..
I am not on testosterone currently but about to purchase a 15 week cycle of test-e 250 dosing it at 500mg a week. I'll start mid July and I'll be taking D-bol at 50mg for the first 4 weeks. Aromasin will be taken daily at 12.5mg because I seem already and naturally estrogenic. I hate it really! what do you think of my cycle?

Hustle28's picture

If ur estro prone drop the dbol run test only maybe add proviron to free ur test

q8i's picture

I see.. I'll do that thanks!

Hustle28's picture

Also split that aromasin 6.25am/pm

I gave u some hassle earlier but it's only for ur health man trt is no joke especially if u want kids.

Good luck

fit5000's picture

I sent you a fr

q8i's picture

accepted.