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Passed! I was on balkan test e 250/wk for 10 days when I had these bloods taken, injecting 2x/week. Also was using CD’s organon hcg 300 IU eod. CD is 100% legit!!!

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Sosa123's picture

Damn this guy got more negative karma than me

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Pinning85's picture

Lmao

Makwa's picture

What the hell happened here. lol

Geo's picture

Idk..I stopped reading after "the earth being flat" arguement...lol

Bill G's picture

We got schooled by a 22 year old on ester half lifes and trt dosing. Why the post hasent been taken down yet ill never know

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Here’s a link of a well known and well renowned and respected doctor speaking on the half life of cyp and Enanthate. https://youtu.be/Ibx7doLqE-c. Is your friend a doctor? Is your medical text book up to date? Grow up kid.

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seafish22's picture

So you post 1 doctor, who also stated in the same vid that cypionate is a more painful injection (ummm what??), who also suggests in this vid (https://youtu.be/ciGILrMOeCc) that your cholesterol levels aren’t a very important factor to take into account, which is ridiculous as it’s very well established and basically non controversial that a poor lipid profile leads to heart disease. Doctors aren’t magicians, they don’t know the answers to everything and this one is a great example of that. Great source that you scrambled to find yet again. Try harder

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Ah clearly you know more about a doctor who specializes in TRT with your 2000 test levels of TRT. Fyi TRT means testosterone replacement therapy. Which is replacing the test that the body does not create anymore and injecting test to create normal
Test levels. So how can you say you’re on TRT. What were your levels before going on your cycle because clearly you’re on a cycle and not on anything anyone would consider TRT. Again good luck kid

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Bill G's picture

Well, its called "royal" trt bro!
Didn't know we were dealing with a princess.
I'm so sorry Princess. Please forgive our insubordination....

And that is a real picture of me you dick
im just really hairy.
How about you post a picture of your self. Every one here has seen several pictures of me. And yes its obvious i havent been working out since i was in middle school. So post up or shut up . But i bet you dont . Because your a princess and you dont have to
Na!

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Hahah that is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever heard. Royal TRT. Isn’t that every cycle known to man? Extra test while keeping sides to a minimum. I’m gonna come up with a cool name for my TRT too I think I’ll be on noble trt from now on and bill aren’t you on ninja trt?

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seafish22's picture

Lmao this is not even worth replying to. I’m done here. I think we can agree that this poverty red herring crap you both resorted to is your ways of giving up. Next time just admit you have no idea what you’re talking about before playing that card.

Good luck to both of you with your sub-par trt regimens and future googling for your reference of knowledge.

Bill G's picture

I said in the beginning no help here for any one under 25. So if you thought any thing we said was even close to the truth your a joke. So in other words kick rocks kid your not getting a cosign here.

Bill G's picture

Its better known as the flying squirrel style of self defense. I learned it in Nam.

seafish22's picture

Yeah, it's called royal trt. You can get away with an extra amount of test while keeping sides at a minimum. No one on this board would consider it trt because they are so narrow minded and think their way is the only way. Don't be fooled by me though, I'm only 24 so this automatically makes my first and second statements invalid.

"And hes been working out really hard for 9 years and juicing for half of that . But only 200 pounds. But he looks big for 200 pounds. Oh wait we havent seen a picture yet"

Says the guy with a squirrel as his avatar. Also you're only 4 lbs heavier than me and 3 inches shorter and we dont even know your bodyfat. On top of this you're 2 decades older than me. You should pick your fights a little more wisely

Bill G's picture

And hes been working out really hard for 9 years and juicing for half of that . But only 200 pounds. But he looks big for 200 pounds. Oh wait we havent seen a picture yet

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Haha ya I’d like to see pic of all his hard work. I like how he keeps avoiding my TRT questions and disregards a medical doctor who specializes in TRT and that doctor has to go ongoing, current specialized training yet this kid knows more because of his two pages of medical text book. I wonder what his old account name was..

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Hustle28's picture

-1 for lying about ur age also ur blood test lacks credibility on the fact that ur only 10 days in and as a child that I are ur not fooling anyone here all the vets have below can see straight through ur BS. Also just like every other millennial you think ur always right and that you know everything smh

Sneakerzilla's picture

Bottom line bro hes under 25 the age that eroids allows but he doesnt understand that so hes argueing about everything but still hes still under 25. This kid can tell me i dont know shit and i dont help out and whatever else he said but in the end i dont give a shit what a kid has to say hes gonna get the ban hammer for being under 25 anyways so it was definatley entertaining to read all these posts haha.

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seafish22's picture

Age had not been updated on my profile, you can’t lie about your age on a blood test and my papers clearly show I’m 24.. you’re not a very smart one (quite common on this site though). “Like every millennial” yeah, and like almost every person that’s older, you think age = intelligence. This comment section on this pic is a shining star example that age does not have nearly as much of an impact on intelligence as you would like to think. I don’t care how much older you are.. age isn’t an automatic cure for stupidity

Hustle28's picture

:-) ahhhhh as another member mentioned below ur a kid that’s been banned before

Good luck Einstein

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

What were you on before? Only ten days and then you pulled bloods I always thought you needed at least 5 weeks for an accurate reading I may be wrong though.

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seafish22's picture

Before I was on another sources Test E (250mg/week). There’s no way my levels would still be this high after 10 days from a 125mg shot from another source. This is definitely CD’s gear that’s keeping my levels nice and high.

I’ve pulled bloods only 9 days in on previous cycles before and my levels were already high then too

Bill G's picture

This is definitely CD’s gear that’s keeping my levels nice and high.

getoffyourkneeskid

seafish22's picture

The half life of test E is 4.5 days.. just about all of the 125mg would be out of my system by day 10. And since the blood test results were as expected for 250mg/week of test E, there's no need to redo the lab work.

Here's a nice study clearly showing that after 9 days from a 200mg test E injection, blood serum levels dropped to 500ng/dl:

https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(16)46108-X/pdf

Yet you're suggesting they could still be 2400 after 10 days of an even lighter dose LOL. Ok then

Taten's picture

Terminal plasma half-life is the time required to divide the plasma concentration by two after reaching pseudo-equilibrium, and not the time required to eliminate half the administered dose. (Copied from the internet, your study mentioned the terminal half life)

seafish22's picture

What matters is the elimination half life.

I found a nice link to a study to end this half debate and prove that I’m correct: https://www.mediafire.com/?d948ivot9sqgt9e

I’m pretty excited to see what Bill and his sidekick have to say about this, seeing as they won’t be able to offer any evidence to the contrary, because there is none (besides maybe a google search)

Taten's picture

DID YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN STUDY?? Go to page 336, look at the graph, after 10 days after the injection the test levels went from 40nmol/l to 20nmol/l. THE HALF LIFE is 10 days!

seafish22's picture

LOL, they literally have a table on page 334 where they listed the half lives.

This is going nowhere. I think at this point we can just agree to disagree

Taten's picture

I also just pulled out the little pamphlet that comes with my vial for trt, it says approximately 8 days. So either this multi billion dollar pharmaceutical company is wrong, or this arrogant kid is. Who knows.

seafish22's picture

The body will not keep producing its own testosterone (at least not to any meaningful degree) while you’re running testosterone, unless you’re running HCG. That’s why you have to pct after using exogenous test, because you’re almost completely shut down after coming off of it. You’re putting too much stock into the graphs, look at the test prop graph in that study as well. They were back to basically 0 by day 3, and you mentioned beforehand that test prop is 4.5 days. See the problem there?

And you’re flip flopping now lol. So is it 8 or 10 days for test E? Seems like you’ve confused yourself now

Taten's picture

That is my point, when people take test there bodys natural porudction shutsdown, so the total serum crashed much faster than expected. The problem is that everybody metabolizes testosterone at different rates so some will say 8,9,10 days but it is all within this range.

Taten's picture

I am going to explain this very carefully, hopefully you understand. These measurements were taken after a 200mg dose of test e. Remember the body still produces its own natural testosterone. They measured the half life by taking the peak dose of the testosterone level to the natural level and found the middle number. Remember as soon as that dose hits about 100mg the body will start creating its own testosterone because there will no longer be enough exogenous testosterone being brought in. read segment 11.1.3.2.1
Terminal means connection, in this sense, terminal half life is being used to find the half life between peak levels to the basal levels.

Just take a look at figure 11.4 and you can clearly see the elimination half life is 10 days.

Taten's picture

The problem is that the body stops producing its own testosterone which makes your total serum drop very rapidly. At the beginning they are measuring 10h after pinning which is your testosterone + exo. testosterone. Then a couple days later your body stops producing its own and then they measured the exo. testosterone. The problem was they were measuring just total serum levels and not taking in account shutdown. (I am for example referencing 11.6 here.)

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Page 334 is referring to test prop hahah read your own study! Page 335 and 336 is for Enanthate. Hey but thanks for showing us an actual study that proved you’re wrong hahaha

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Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Damn good job Taten got his dumb ass hahaha

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Taten's picture

prop has a half life of 4.5 days.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

The half life of test e is 10.5 days friend. Do some more research and stop being so hostile. Furthermore the study you referenced is from 1982? Secondly in the very first paragraph “Serum reproductive hormone levels were measured serially after eugonadal and hypogonadal men had received either a 200-mg or a 100-mg intramuscular injection of testosterone enanthate. The calculated mean integrated testosterone and estradiol levels indicated that the 200-mg testosterone enanthate injection in the hypogonadal subjects maintained eugonadal levels ofthese hormones through day 11. The 100-mg” the part of like to highlight is that they maintained their levels through day 11. Again. Do more research and stop being so hostile these people are trying to help.

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seafish22's picture

No, test E half-life is 4.5 days. 10.5 days is a huge myth. Also, refer to the graph (Figure 1A) on page 2. What's your piont about the study being from 1982..? Research does not have an expiration date.

Anyways, the subjects maintained healthy levels yes, and 500 ng/dl is considered healthy by medical standards, but that's a much lower number than 2417 as my bloodwork came back with. The people here are not helping, they are spreading useless misinformation.

I hired a coach that I've worked with for years that is much, much smarter than 99% of this board. He is not a broscientist either, he has a master of science degree and is a fairly renowned scientific author.. so he is a much more reliable source of info with much better credentials than the armchair experts here. He is the person that designed all of my cycle and trt regimens

Taten's picture

Terminal plasma half-life is the time required to divide the plasma concentration by two after reaching pseudo-equilibrium, and not the time required to eliminate half the administered dose. (Copied from the internet, your study mentioned the terminal half life)

Bill G's picture

Reaserch doesnt have an expiration date. Sure it does. Wasnt very long ago the smartest people on earth thought it was flat. And they were convinced the sun travles around the earth.

seafish22's picture

There was never any research that supported the notion of the earth being flat. Not one shred of evidence. It was based off of conjectures, it was merely a belief... not actual research lol. Fail

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Could you link some scientific articles showing that the half life is 4.5 days please?

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RSN34's picture

Still waiting for his reply.

Bill G's picture

Me too. Hitting every ball back to us just not the ones that count. It's very entertaining to say the least.

seafish22's picture

Sarcasm on your part obviously but in case you were too lazy to read, you can’t just get access to any article you want. You have to be subscribed to lots of journals to do that. And research on AAS is very, very limited and of the tiny amount of research done on them, there an even tinier amount that the public has free access to.

I also find it funny that he demanded a scientific study showing the half life to be 4.5 days and then proceeds to accept a google search from bill the genius and online steroid pages as valid info but shoots down 2 referenced medical textbooks written by several scholars. I have nothing else to say but LOL

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Haha me too bro. All he did is show me a text book saying that’s what it is. Clearly he has all the answers...

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Bill G's picture

Whats not a myth is he is under 25. Stop entertaining this kid

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Your right bill my bad. What are your thoughts on test e half life I always thought it was 10.5 is this kids medical books correct?

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