posted Wed, 08/29/2018 - 06:28
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Passed! I was on balkan test e 250/wk for 10 days when I had these bloods taken, injecting 2x/week. Also was using CD’s organon hcg 300 IU eod. CD is 100% legit!!!
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Whats funny is on another post a kid was asking about help with gyno. Not about gear. He got shut down in 5 minutes and banned and every one was theatened to have karma deducted because they were commenting to him. Here this twerp is same but talking gear and arguing but still here?
You’re just mad because I’m making valid points that you can’t refute. Your only retort is “pfff wow 24 you cant possibly know anything, just wait until you’re in you’re 30’s, that’s when you’ll have all of the answers. It’s impossible for anyone under 25 to know anything”
I’ve seen better logic from single sorority women.
Getting mad isnt even in my vocabulary. And no you will still be an idiot when you get in your 30's. The only point i am arguing is your brain and body isnt done growing till after you are 25. But you have been fucking your self up for a few years and your only 24. What a shame. I bet your dad got you on the juice because he was a failure in sports and wanted all the best for you. So he could feel like a success. And live vicariously through you. Just a shame . Because you had to use drugs to get big as a youth.
Ya I saw that post haha. I don’t know how this kid has lasted this long. Probably won’t be here much longer anyway. I need to start checking stats and age before I even comment now.
Specifically, testosterone enanthate contains the carboxylic acid ester (enanthoic acid), and a half-life is approximately 8-9 days; the longest half-life of all common ester based testosterones. An uncommon testosterone such as Nebido (testosterone undecanoate) has a very long 3-month half-life.
Says google.
its actually 18-24 days
So what do you start your pct at 36 to 48 days after last pin?
I think this is one of the only esters that really changes depending on the dose. 250mg/week vs 1000mg/week would start at completely different times. I would say with 1000mg 48 days sounds good.
I could be wrong however, because there are many factors to consider, such as the amount of the active drug (think like 60% whereas test e is more like 80%), it's release (because it has a very long half life.... having 250mg of test e would shut you down more than 250mg of test undec. because more is released therefore a lower dose of test e could be used to replace your own production) Hope that made sense.
Thank you bill! Much appreciated.
Think thats why trt is every 7 days and can be stable. With a slight peak and troughs. Pin mon/thu. By thursday its hasnt fully peaked yet maybe a day before give or take. So we pin juat before the peak. It starts ober lapimg . This is why bloods at 4 to 5 weeks is necessary because it takes that many over laps to catch up with the fullnes of the dose.
Definitely makes sense and that’s why I like to pin Mon and Thursday. I was trying to explain to the kid that even though his last shot was ten days ago it was still building up in his system and then was compounded on his current injections. But he’s a know it all that’s why the person he hired had him do a 3 week cycle before? And then had him pull bloods after ten days of this new “TRT” which has his levels above 2,000 sounds like a great “trt” doctor haha
Reading comprehension not even once.
I was running trt for 3 weeks with another sources gear, then switched to CD. Not once did I state I did a “3 week cycle”.
Pulling bloods was my decision for personal reassurance, it had nothing to do with my coach. You’re just pulling stuff out of your ass.
Also, your sources were laughable. A lab and a bodybuilding forum is more credible than medical textbooks now? Talk about desperately cherry picking your info to fit your idea.. how sad.
First off your on TRT at 24? Enough said...
Please humor on why trt at 24 is a bad idea. Can’t wait to hear this retarded explanation and destroy your argument.
Also, No, a shot from 10 days ago is not still building up in your system. Otherwise you wouldn’t need to pin 2x per week.. which you admitted yourself is needed LOL. By the end of the week, your levels are much lower than the first day of the pin. I even referenced a study on this. Do you have an researching showing test enanthate still building up after a shot from 10 days prior? No, you don’t, because that does not exist because that is not possible.
So you consider a test level of over 2000 TRT haha good luck kid you’re gonna do what you want no point in arguing anymore.
Yeah trt at 24 great advice. Another dallas . Probly kill him self before he turns 30
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Yeah thanks bill! Your google search is much more credible than 2 medical textbooks that are both highly referenced and published by accredited MD’s and professors.
....you both are retarded. What a waste of time
Well if you dont like it then kick rocks kid. No help for under 25 . bye bye now.
Just because a book says something doesn’t really mean anything buddy. I asked for scientific articles showing the half life you literally just showed me text saying that that’s the half life. Here is some text saying the half life is 8-10 days. Clearly you’re not here to learn anything as you already know everything so why are you here?
https://www.empowerpharmacy.com/drugs/testosterone-enanthate-injection.html
https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-profiles/testosterone-enanthate/
https://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/Half-Life.shtml
This is straight from a medical textbook:
https://books.google.com/books?id=mEgckDNkonUC&pg=PA442&lpg=PA442&dq=tes...
I was looking for a scientific article. Is there anything in the book that shows how they came to the conclusion of the 4.5 day half life instead of just stating that that’s what it is? I’m honestly just curious and if I’m wrong I have no problem admitting it I’d just like scientific studies to prove it not just a medical book that states something ya know?
Getting access to full-text scientific articles is unfortunately pretty difficult without being subscribed to tons of journals.
Here is another reference straight from another published medical textbook though:
EDIT: better link - https://books.google.com/books?id=hurRyWje4DMC&pg=PA476&lpg=PA476&dq=tes...
If that is not valid enough literature to convince you though, I'm not really sure what else would be.
Maybe if you were 24 they would be
I’m not saying it would still be high after ten days from your last shot of the other source but it would still depend on how long you ran that other source because it would have built up over time and the compounded on your current injections. Either way those are definitely some good levels I just think you should have waited a few more weeks that way we know it’s the Balkan beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks for the bloods anyway.
I see your point. I was on the other sources for a while (about 3 weeks) but I don’t think there’s anyway they’d still be this high after only running 250mg/week and waiting 10 days after switching to CD. And no problem on posting bloods, we should all be looking after each other on here!
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6'1
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22 and running gear?
I’m 24 now, those stats are old. I did use gear when I was 22 though, I’ve been training hard since I was 15. You can only go so far naturally and I had reached 99% of my natural genetic potential by the time I was 21.
I’m 5’10” and got up to 220lbs naturally. Learn how to eat and train first.
Nice, so you were 5’10 and 220 at 30% bodyfat, all natural. I too would love to be 6’1 and eat my way from 200 to 240 lbs while naturally gaining 36 lbs of fat and 4 lbs of muscle.
Nothin like being all natural and huge without a visible ab in sight
Reality: you can only gain so much muscle naturally, with about 65-75% of it being in your first year
You weren't even close to reaching your full natural potential.
So you think being 6'1 and 197 pounds is your natural genetic limit? LOL I'm 6 inches shorter than you and 10 pounds lighter and not even close to my limit yet.
I used gear young so i cant knock you for that but come on, reaching your "natural genetic limit" with those stats is a dumbass excuse and will only get you flamed for not owning your choices.
Also, admitting to currently juicing at 24 on here will probably get you banned. Site does not condone usage under 25.
Weight doesn’t mean jack shit in bodybuilding . Go take a seat and educate yourself
RustyhookerThats not fully correct. A lightheavy midget shredded next to 5-10 equally shredded and the 5-10 aint catching the win.
point is weight really doesn’t mean much unless we’re talking strict weight classes sure but body building is all proportions and symmetry and conditioning (genetics ) . I just can’t stand when some ignorant asshole comes in here going for the throat on someone’s weight and height.
You're exactly right. However, according to pickle there's no way you could be big and look good at 6'1 7% bodyfat and 215...
...sarcasm. Reality is you're bigger than 99.9% of lifters
I mean I could technically use another 15-20. Id love to be John cena size lol. But yah.. def big as shit to general pop
Thats a silly comment. By your logic, you think someone whos 5'10 and 140 pounds can step on stage at Mr. O and have a chance just because they have shrunk wrapped skin and great symmetry? Come on dude, more muscle = more weight. Height, weight, and bf give an idea on muscle mass and size.
I know some guys who are 70kg who look diced, and look like they're 90kg+... weight is true not everything
Anyone who leads with scale weight in bodybuilding is going to end up highly disappointed . Let the mirror guide you. +1
Agreed, weight is just a part of it. Its a metric for people online to paint a picture when combined with height and bf since most people dont post pictures.
You are painfully stupid. Maybe someone else will try and take some time to help you out here
This guy gets it. Kudos to you my man
Best to just stay in your own lane on this site. Too many wannabes
LOL you have no idea wtf you’re even talking about. Everyone has different genetic potentials. It depends on frame, bone structure, natural test levels, etc. and if you train on a completely optimized program/diet for about 3-4 years with 100% adherence, you WILL hit your genetic potential. Yes, that was my weight months after doing an entire full cycle. After someone cycles, there is 0 doubt that they’ve reached their genetic potential. You WILL NOT gain any more muscle naturally after cycling, you’ve completed the game. That is a fact.
Funny how all I’ve done was come on here to help and your reaction is to try and flame me over nonsense that you’re completely wrong on. Please educate yourself
There is so much wrong in this post I’m not even going to entertain it.
I see you updated your stats and you are still 6’1 and 200 pounds. Learn to eat dude.
6’1 and 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat is solid. I don’t even want to be past 215. Also, I’d rather be 6’1 and 200 lbs than a manlet at 5’7 and 188. I was 5’7 in elementary school
Also, your post was a cop-out. You cant respond to my points because you have no refutation for them.
lol Then I'm a manlet at 5 foot 6 and 210 pounds and 13%bf. the whole point is at 22 or 24 or however young you are and doing test before you even hit 25 means you just shut off your genetic potential like an idiot, but go ahead and tell everyone you are buff and muscular and the girls ask for autographs. Making me fkn laugh that you dont want to be over 215, why in fucks name are you taking test then? Because you cant get big without it? You cant maintain your puny size? Fuck yourself up for nothing what a waste.
Shut off genetic potential? Wtf are you talking about lmao. I'm INCREASING it by being on trt you idiot.
And hurr durr not everyone has the same goals. Greg plitt and zyzz were both ~200 lbs at 6’1 with 7-8% bodyfat and I'm very close to their size. They look much more appealing than balding mass monsters who are clearly juiced out of their mind. And definitely much better than a middle aged manlet such as yourself. The goal is to look universally appealing, not like a roided out meathead that looks like a Neanderthal.
At 5’6 and 210 13% bodyfat you would look like a stalky oompa loompa and I would blow you out of the water. Seriously, no one even notices you at 5’6. Women dont care how much mass you put on to compensate for your height.
Also, of course you can get big without AAS, but you wont be lean at all unless you have top 0.1% of genetics. Being big, full and shredded naturally is virtually nonexistent.
Nothing like a pompous 20 year old who thinks he knows everything. You may need to find your safe place because me being short had ZERO effect on getting laid with or without muscles. I dont have napoleon complex because my height has never held me back with the ladies or with anything else in my life.
and for you to think us oompa loompas look like shit compare to you mighty tall people you need to look at the history of mr olympia and other bodybuilding events...and powerlifting events.....and strongman events and see who wins the most awards........yes its us midgets.