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  • Edit 9 weeks into cycle

  • R1978   •   Sun, May 26th, '19 09:56   •   10 replies, 478 views

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9 weeks into testosterone enanthate cycle one shot twice a week 300 mg went from 174 - 200 lbs

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  • Sam I Am's picture
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  • Sam I Am
  • 4 months ago

A 9 week cycle to look like you've been lifting 9 weeks. Bill your not doing this guy any favors.
The risk vs reward isnt there.
99.5 % of guys that build there entire physique on drugs dont maintain it.
That weight gain is water.

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99.5 % of guys that build there entire physique on drugs dont maintain it

I’m not one who likes to name drop anyone in the industry in a negative manner (I consider this more along the lines of “cautionary tale”), but if Jerry Ward isn’t living proof of that, no one is. And it’s not only a matter of something as superficial as maintaining a look, either

Ward knows how to use drugs, knows how to diet, but has no clue how to train. Uses only machines and little bitty dumbbells, never uses full range of motion, does no mobility work, doesn’t take care of his connective tissues. Can’t even squat 135 to parallel. Tears both pecs with 3 plates on a bench before it even touches his chest. Tears a lat on an assisted pull-up machine. Yes, an assisted pull-up machine.

It’s not even just maintaining the physique, it’s quality of life, too. Training properly is crucial for longevity and avoiding injuries as we age. I feel silly using the word “we.” I know, I’m still basically a kid relatively speaking, but thinking 20, 25 years into the future doesn’t hurt.

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I see alot of this and at that level it's just not necessary imo.
Some carbs and heavy compound movements for a couple years and this dude would probably be ready.
Problem is nobody wants to wait. In all the guys I've known only one guy who did that retained it.

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Everyone wants that quick gratification Sam they want it quick man they don't wanna wait and work for it , and I expecially see this in the spring and summer months, 90 percent of the weight he put on is probably water , maybe three pounds of muscle, I guess at least hes only using test but that still doesn't justifying it ,the worst is the guys that won't go to the gym unless there on gear, and hopefully he knows about and how to pct correctly... I'm to the point where everyone over 21 is old enough to make there own decisions it's there body's if u wanna drink booze that's ur right I can have my opinion but ultimately it's his life and his body, there gunna do whatever they want anyway..

At least he's got bill and someone who knows helping him do it right , makes things better knowing that

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  • dextetherdog
  • 4 months ago

Hard to judge from this picture, would be great to see before and after pictures. Keep it up man ))

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  • fusebox
  • 4 months ago

+2 from me w
Welcome

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  • wanted
  • 4 months ago

Hey your a lucky guy to know bill on a personal level. Listen to him he knows what he is doing.. good work Get that diet right and good potential.. its not easy but it worth every minute

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  • Bill1976
  • 4 months ago

I know this guy. Pic taken at my house. He made a 1000 percent improvement. Went over the rules with him. Pic doesn’t do him justice.

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he can edit or add more pics Bill.

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Ahhh ill tell him that.