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  • bigchips27   •   Thu, Mar 21st, '19 10:11   •   23 replies, 764 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

Sources: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
            

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3iu daily for the past 2 months. Been on since last July at varying dosage. This is my 1st test so I may have made some rookie mistakes. Such as not ever having a baseline test.
I just started a cycle 5 days prior to test which includes
600 mg test c
750mg EQ
300 mg tren e
I've been trt dose of 160mg prior to that.

25mg of provirin stopped about 32 hrs prior to test
40mcg t3 stopped 24 hrs.
To my understanding these drugs may cause an interference.
It was a last minute planned test so I did my best.

Unfortunately without a baseline and the listed variables the conclusion of the results may be somewhat inconclusive. I was still hoping for a number just past the top end of the normal range. Somewhere around 250-300.

Im not sure. Please comment any thoughts.

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  • Anonymous
  • 2 years ago

Hello bigchips
your hgh is good! Don't worry! produced in gmp pharma , no way to get a bad batch
May be the dose is too small for you or may be other things made you a lower igf level! Which is I don't know , but no way hgh bunk .!
On the other hand , If blood work don't go with a correct protocol , can't tell you much info about hgh quality! And every ppl are diffrent when come to blood work!

Respect!

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  • Dope
  • 2 years ago

Is raining toptrope bunk bloods hallelujah!!!

All bloods posted this past days are shit .. so mich for the HPLC test toptop posted

Sory for you guys

Respect

Dope

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  • idan707
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You got bunk gear like i do and like the others that upload blood test.
In my post they think i upload fake blood test i mean omg why the hell i need to fake test? I praise this source the last 3 orders And upload very high Numbers!
And still i 100% sure the last batch its crap.
You know it... The guy that upload his blood test few days ago know it and everybody that got the last batch know it! but maybe we all fake our tests.
Im trying to find lab that will test this batch hplc test.
I still dosnt find lab that tests for private but i will search and search until i found one.
Like i say that batch is terrible and if the hplc test dont confirm that i personaly will admit my mistake from the source and will erase my profile from this site for ever.

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Janoshik

Best wishes bro

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Im from israel brother its hard to find labs that do it here for private people.

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Janoshik is a lab outside of your country that you can ship to. Whatever you want to have tested, just send it to them, pay them, and voila lol. Email them brother. I think they’ll be able to help you out. I think the test is only like $80

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Though I recall seeing a negative thread about janoshik. Something about posting bogus or results. Maybe a different forum. Im not completely sure.

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I know what you are referring to with Jano. Before you write him off completely there are a few big name trusted sources that still use him and have also compared his results with Simec. He was spot on in those instances. You can find them on the other board you mentioned. I had HPLC testing done through him and it went smoothly. It's not $70 (that's for AAS)....$400 for the HPLC test for HGH that includes dimmers and proteins.

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I didnt know that... Thank you bro.

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No problem at all.

Best wishes

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  • Soulja
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The current theory on IGF testing is that Lab Core's testing method is inaccurate when DHT derivatives or certain antibodies are in play. Quest offers LC/MS testing which should give you are more accurate reading. Hopefully Dacky will stop by and comment. He understands all this better than I do. In theory it would be impossible to tell whether the product is good or not based upon this testing method when using DHT's. This is all new information and we are still trying to determine whether or not it's accurate.

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I read his post. I ordered online and the only availability near me was labcore. I think what I may do is run out the last kit I have at 8iu which should last about 2 weeks then retest. Stop the provi and t3. And see what those results show. Then take a couple weeks off then get a baseline. I think that'll give us a better idea of whats going on.

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I wasn’t using any dht derivative, any AI or any thing else I know of that can reduce your IGF 1 levels when I tested from Labcorp. No aas. I do take a lot of supplements currently but nothing crazy. Milk thistle extract I am taking which affects liver but in a positive way. I heard a long time ago that it would reduce the effectiveness of oral steroids down to 80% probably do to improved liver function but nothing with Igf 1. Like I said I drank the night before maybe a little cannabis too but if cannabis affected it negatively the HGH test I got when I was 28 sure didn’t show it bc I was smoking like a freight train back then. But like that one dude said it peaks 24 hours later and the night before, about 20 hours earlier I had 2.5 ius of Toptroupe So idk if my 287 was ok for that or not. Only other drugs I was taking were ibuprofen an a real basic blood pressure medicine called benazepril.

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Here's the thing when every your thinking of running hgh you run a blood test BEFORE you do anything to get a baseline of you endogenous levels. That way you can judge if your product is good are not so good. You have something to compare to. IGF-I is one of the few tests that is age specific so a test from 17yrs ago is no good as your reference ranges have changed. I can can tell you there is hgh in it as your over the reference. Some people produce antibodies that will negatively affect levels. Some non pharmaceutical grade hgh will cause this also. That's why personally I dont mess with non pharma hgh anymore. There is a reason it's way cheaper than pharma. It's very fragile and expensive to make correctly.

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100 points on your IGF score per iu of hgh is about what can be expected from properly dosed, quality hgh. So by that standard things look just fine.

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Show me your math here.

Did he start with a negative IGF-1 number?

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I was replying to Maddogg's comment....he pulled 287 from 2.5iu

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Yes - my bad

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I agree. I would've been cool with a high 200s range. Maybe the provi, t3. Idk. I'm going to run this last kit out at a higher dosage and retest in about 12 days. And see what happens

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https://www.labsmd.com/

If these guys do testing in your location they offer the IGF-1 test you need for an accurate reading regardless of what compounds your running. Provided our current speculation on these Labcore tests is correct....as I said before though, it's currently just a theory. This is where I'll be doing my next one and they use Quest. Thanks for testing btw +1

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Good link. One nearby. I'll order the test from this next week. Thanks

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  • Primo_Build
  • 2 years ago

Proviron can alter your igf but I really don’t think it does so as much as people have been attributing to it lately. Your results are consistent with what we’ve been seeing from that brand for a little while now. Best wishes brother.

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hopefully dacky weighs in but really provi doesnt alter ur igf negatively... it makes the test read ur igf levels incorrectly