Images from Vermodje Lab bust
Vermodje factory and manufacturing conditions
Vermodje: http://youtu.be/pWBbya9ONtU
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I would not care if juice is produced in kitchen. But be honest write is UG and make it clean. Do not make in wet underground full of bacteria using used water jugs. Post pictures from your clean kitchen and you will be respected, not pictures stolen from websites showing doctors and do not say is legal brand. If you lie about production process how we can trust that you have right dossages ?
Pictures from Vermodje website were stolen from here
http://teguar.com/news-press/pharmaceutical-computing.html
http://www.pharmamanufacturing.com/articles/2008/042/
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/velesco-pharma/velesco...
http://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/pharmaceutical.html
http://www.theresonance.com/2012/categories/pharmaceutical/integrated-sp...
If Vermodje say this video is wrong then please open your doors for a factory tour. Invite few mods and members that is cheap for you.
I know Vermodje is priced as low as 1 USD per mililiter does not matter what product you buy if you buy in bulk and combined ( many products ). But the low price allways come with low quality is not possible either way. So many sources will defend since profit is big. I just say to those guys: bring the proofs make a factory tour , is best advertising for you best money invested. Why would you pay poor bodybyilders from russia and make expensive video clips advertising your brand when a factory tour would be the best advertising ?
Do not bring as proves blood work. Bloods you can do only for test and is well known UG put mainly prop or cheaper esters . Open doors for factory to show you are honest..Do it, is best way for you now
Anyway next week I will get more videos from the second DVD. I will come with more ...
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https://www.eroids.com/users/porcdecaine
https://www.eroids.com/users/losingtheplot
I suspect same person.....
losingtheplotYou're a genius. Spend 5 minutes to Google what I wrote on other boards and on this board and you'll be in better position to cast doubts. Right now, you're just looking stupid and lazy. Google my friend! I don't support ashop neither Balkan or Vermodje. I've raised some doubts regarding the matters in discussion (Vermodje in this case) and I'm pretty impartial as you can see, I'm not throwing baseless claims left and right, I'm actually reading the documents posted up and interpreting them right as they are.
Ajax asked me to say that the two accounts have no any connection between them. You can also read PM's , to be clarified with this situation.
Thank you,
Alice
I don't need a blood test or HPLC to know that the vermodje test p I kicked my last blast with was quality. Is it ALL consistently good? How the hell would I know, all I know is it worked for me, plain and simple. take it for what it's worth fellas
You should read a little deeper into what is being said. Nobody is saying there isn't testosterone in the gear it is all the other shit we should be concerned with.
Oh. I stand corrected, I just browsed slightly, disregard my rant fellas
Edit: don't mind me, back injury has left me brain dead.
No worries bro. Get well, eh.
New
Prosecutor General's Office sent to AMED MOLDOVA (FDA MOLDOVA) Vermodje products confiscated for analysis. Here are bulletins issued by the FDA analysis which shows that conclusion: Preparation of unknown origin. Substandard. So the origin is unknown so VERMODJE producing enterprise is not considered drugs and their quality does not match. More information within few days ... one by one ..
You can see at conclusion "PREPARAT DE ORIGINE NECUNOSCUTA. NU CORESPUNDE". Please put on google translate (Preparation of unknown origin. Substandard )
Also you can see that FDA is directing their analyses to PROCURATURA GENERALA A MOLDOVEI. Please put on google translate ( Prosecutor General's Office)
http://i.imgur.com/biY6eyt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/prT7GVB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3nUoCET.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/E8Tb7J2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Her5tHd.jpg
I updated these urls they were incorrect. I just can't figure out a way to translate these damn things.
losingtheplotWhy where the images removed? I can't see them anymore...
I can still view them just fine so the problem must be with the device/PC your using.
I can still view them just fine so the problem must be with the device/PC your using.
losingtheplotLets be accurate. There is no HPLC testing on these 5 items, the reason why they are "Not corresponding" is because of "Marking reasons". That's what the certiticate is saying. We would like to see some real HPLC done on Vermodje products! Marking reasons can be various and people here don't care about that, I'm sure.
Brother I've been digging and digging to find everything I can that seems real and legit. If you can find anything that either confirms or denies the allegations against Vermodje please help and share. Just to let you know. I'm not on a mission here to tarnish the reputation of them. I'm just looking for facts either way. When I started this endeavor I was seeking just that, facts. To this point the only documentation at my disposal has been negative. I do wish it wasn't so to be honest. It would be much less taxing on our community if all sources and labs were legit and sanitary. That's just is not the way it is though. So, for my safety and the safety of others, when accusations like this come to light I try to be as diligent as possible to shed light on the situation and get to the truth. Thanks.
losingtheplotI suppose that you have read the Certificates of Analysis presented and uploaded to imageshack, right? Please clear out for everyone the reason why the samples analyzed are considered "Non corresponding". Its in the "Conclusion" section below the table.
Some reason right now I'm wanting some cookies hmmm
I love ashop's name here........porcdecaine. please ashop explain this name if will humor the crowd!
Here is another link I've found. This will need translated as well. I've found the best option for translating pages like this is by using Google chrome which has an automatic translator.
http://www.anad.gov.ro/html/ro/presa_comunicate.php?id=71
RustyhookerTranslated .... used
www.bing.com/translator/ Date on report last summer
Translate
AT THE PRESS-CAUTION
In the latest period, the territory of the European Union appeared more veterinary products of anabolic androgen steroids class, manufactured by VERMODJE SRL-Moldova.
In countries that have entered the market, these products are: Russia, Ukraine, Poland and Spain.Â
Following quality tests in accredited laboratories have been established as major deficiencies:Â
nonconformance with the composition of the content indicated on the packaging, subdozarea active principles, etc., relating to the manufacture in conditions that do not correspond to the European standards in force and the use of low-quality raw materials with chemical impurities content, solvents, salts of heavy metals.Â
Management of the brand manufacturer concerned will not produce the desired therapeutic effect can worsen the condition and health of pet animals.Â
Note that the content and quality of their serious injury may occur, on the health status of sportivilo
That scary may hurt animals or pets. Wow glad I never bought any of this when I was looking at it. Plus two for the translation
Wow. That ain't good.
RustyhookerNo sir. And so far I can't find positive proofs to debate the issue.
I've been trying to find anything at all that's in their favor and I've found nothing.
In my eyes this is pretty open and shut case thanks for all your research. I can't believe no reseller came on here and gave any evidence for vermodje
Your welcome and my pleasure. Anyone claiming to be something they are not and/or manufacturing already potentially dangerous compounds and making them even worse to our health and well being are trash in my eyes. IMO they should be burned at the steak. It's obvious they'd pour gas on us if it came down to it.
The first link has several other links to information pertaining to Vermodje being shut down as a pharma grade company as well as not making the cut to even be veterinary grade. Also info about them being linked to using harmful drugs in their compounds made to muscle up pigs. I forget the name of the drug but it's basically poison to the human body. I came across some other info about Vermodje I just need to do some back tracking and I'll link that up as well.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/vermodje-lab-busted-6356-...
http://adevarul.ro/moldova/actualitate/producatorii-farmaceutici-isi-inc...
RustyhookerSecond link doesn't say much.
Many of them are forced to cease the activity or to switch in manufacturers of veterinary doctors or fertilizer, because I can't get international certification.
Only four domestic pharmaceutical producers of those existing on the market 28 have already certified Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP), issued by the medicines agency, and 12 are in the process of implementation of these standards in manufacturing. At the same time, the other 12 producers are forced to close factories or transition, because they allow to synchronize production standards with the international force.
The Hope-Farm SRL, a manufacturer of pharmaceutical powders, which was closed. "The organisation has ceased trading recently because we can no longer sell any medications. Sell used equipment. I don't know what will happen next, "claims Lidia Trajan, representation of the company.
Vermodje LTD, a pharmaceutical enterprise in Ghidighici, who until last year was producing capsules and tablets, found a solution. "One year we have turned on the production of veterinary preparations. For these we have GMP certification, "said Victor clover, Director of the company.
Another company producing medications, however, serious problems in the implementation of GMP manufacturing standards. According to the nurses ' station at farmacistei-Com SRL, Mariana VitaPharm Stati, upgrading production lines, laboratories, implementation of technical parameters, storage space adaptation and completion of related documentation GMP certification costs about two million lei, which, she says, are not in the business.
"We can only sell their products on the domestic market, where our only added is limited by law to 15%. With an added can't do the GMP standards. We need a financial support from the State, to reimburse him. Otherwise, as a pharmacist, I am my work abroad. As a firm, we will probably make fertilizer, "says this.
Manufacturers, limit State
Certificate GMP eurofarmaco since 2006, being the first pharmaceutical manufacturer who has standardized the entire chain of production and distribution, according to the international standards in force. However, the company's Director, Boris Băluţel, claims that its competitors for that market, conditions for certification are much more difficult, because of the high costs of implementation, and the very short time that I have available.
"It's impossible to be connected at the GMP standards as pharmaceutical manufacturer in half a year, as the authorities require. GMP is not done in a day. Return to 15% limitation prevents the development of domestic producers. If something happens, you control all flow from the consumer to the supplier of the raw material. It's a huge job, "says Băluţel.
The Director of the drug agency, Alexander Cardona says, however, that all local drugs manufacturers who want to continue their business in this area should be to implement the GMP standards. "Producers need to understand that the pharmaceutical industry has some peculiarities and that it is necessary to hold this certification. The State provides them with methodological support. Those who fail can orient themselves to the manufacture of soft drinks or other activities. Each manufacturer has assumed the responsibility of introducing GMP standards over a period of time. Period may be extended, depending on each person's need, but not later than 31 December 2014, "said Cardoso.
Thorough standardization
To obtain the international certification of good manufacturing at the drug agency, pharmaceutical manufacturers must modernise their systems of acquisition of raw materials, chemical formula, creating conditions for transportation, storage and disposal, so any stage can be monitored in detail
RustyhookerSecond one needs translated by members.
Roger that.
Hi Eroids community, I don't want take a side on this debate because I think we are all adults and we can be responsible for our own decision. Sources need to sell their products and I'm not sure if they test every single one. I do my part testing (if possible) every single product I inject. Unfortunately or not, I had 2 vials of Vermodje test p and I finished them last Saturday. As promised this is the link for my blood test.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/mid-cycle-blood-vermodje-test-p-results
Now take your own conclusion.
The problem here isn't whether Vermodje makes bunks compounds. It's an issue of sanitation. You may have high test levels but you may also have bacteria and virus' in your body that you didn't have before. It's also an issue of integrity as well. They claim to be pharma grade when evidence you can find online specifically shows that they cannot even operate legally with a veterinary license. If they will lie about that, what else are thu going to lie about. I also found an article that claims Vermodje was putting other compounds in their products that stimulates muscle growth in pigs. The only problem here is this stuff is literally poison to the human body. We all take chances with every lab that we use. That being said, when the evidence clearly shows this lab is pretty much dirty as fuck why even bother when you can find other labs out there with a better reputation. Just my .2cents. BTW when this article popped up I actually took the time to investigate myself and found pretty startling evidence that makes it not look very good for ole Vermodje. Wish I could say the opposite here bud, but the proof is the pudding.
Thanks for the blood work homie. Believe me, all the members with a bit of common sense can figure a thing or two.
So just bc this guy has high test levels there's no way on earth this stuff is dirty right? Are you serious bro? Why don't you read this entire thread and look thru the links I posted a few pages back. You will have to hit translate but these are government documents that show Vermodje couldn't even make the cut to be considered vet grade. Seems to me that if you can't even give it animals must be pretty nasty stuff. Make sure you read about the pig compounds as well and what it does to the human body. Bro I have no dog in this fight. I'm not trying to defend any source or other lab here. But once I started my own little investigation I could clearly see the writing on the wall. If anything I feel that this thing needs researched even deeper. If what I've found is complete bulshit than that's even better bc then I know all you out there using Vermodje aren't being affected in a negative way.
Could you do us a favor and copy and paste them translated articles for us?
Sure. I posted them a few pages back. I'll get up front though. You'll have to translate the page. I use google chrome and it automatically does it for me.
Seems some people are suspicious in the wrong way. I will absolutely invite some people from eroids and another forum here in may or june ( march and April I will not be here ). Thats the only way to prove some things. Seems that anything else I post I contested by NandroXXL and few other people that I do not understand them...Anyway for moment seems best solution.
Sure Vermodje can organize a tour faster on their cost to prove they are good and make me look bad in front of you. Easy.
If mods want more proves I need the original account unbanned so my friend can post next week because I will have limited access to laptop. If not he will post on russians forums etc...
I am not fighting with Vermodje for sales or other bs how others accuse me. I am just angry because without putting more money than a regular and dirty UGL they push their stuff as human grade laughing in other faces. Also at some moment some people will get infected and everyone will say that what is coming from this area is shit.
I think the visit will be very relevant and is the only way to prove
Thank you,
Ajax
I always just let the sources battle it out, sit back with my popcorn, its a great time to just see how the source acts, who they are as a person, theres lots of things that can be pulled out of a conversation.
In my opinion its beneficial for all to see, not just for the claims on the lab, but the thread as a whole....I gotta to say it was always fun to poke a source and watch them write paragraph's of bullshit thinking they were helping themselves but really they were just shutting down their business!...Ah the good ole days
Is this going to affect my Russian bride order?
600 mile road trip for work and I come back to this shit? You 2 haven't dueled to the death with fermented herring or played a game of chicken in 2 yugos? This is too much with these documents. Im not buying what Alin's selling. And check my pics, ive made several orders.Your service and quality speaks for itself, stop this shameful behavior. Tom seems like a good dude. Just a reseller, wtf does he even have to prove? If bad blood work comes back, he reaches into his own pocket and all would be forgiven, since he doesnt produce the gear. So really, if no one has reported sickness or bunk gear, who fucking cares anymore?
I would call it a draw but I think we still have more video coming. For now tho that is where we are.
Guess I'll take noids advice, and wait on this scintillating new video. I'm sure it will have all of the production value from the latest kim k sex tape, with all the intrigue that comes along in the latest episode of the real housewives of chisnau.
For the record I have never ordered from either of them.
To nandro
Bro this is getting confusing. May I ask u what your exact argument is? Is vermodje a really pharmaceutical company from Moldova and is it licensed? Did they get busted? Are they veterinary now?
What is your response to alin posting that government agency website that list pharmaceutical companies and vermodje not on it. I looked I couldn't find it now of course there a language barrier so maybe I missed it. I have no dogs in this fight I'm just curious as to what your exactly arguing. I think answering these questions a little more guys here will understand your position
http://www.amed.md/ here's the the link is this a good website?
AMED is Moldovian FDA
How many human grade pharmaceutical companies produce tren and eq for HUMAN consumption? NONE because tren is for cattle and eq is for horses. I like Alin and Nandro but look at the big picture here. No legit pharmaceutical company is gonna push veterinary drugs on humans! When was the last time you heard of anybody in any country getting prescribed EQ? What about tren? No disrespect to either sources involved but do we really want to start digging up facts. You both claim to only sell pharma products...can we take a tour of all these factories...I doubt it. How many pharmacies carry "stealth lab packets" or Titan "Bulk blend" to give to patients with a doctor's prescription? Where are those factories located? YOU BOTH HAVE HIGH END PRODUCTS, STOP THE PISSING MATCH, I'M SURE THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND FOR BOTH PARTIES TO LIVE COMFORTABLE. Be safe gentlemen, looking forward to continue doing business with both of you
From the brands I carry:
STEALTH IS UGL
SP IS UGL
BP IS HUMAN GRADE
BP does not make EQ etc...
Not the problem about the money or something. They should not lie people by writing lies on the box. Just write nothing like a regular UGL and I will not open my mouth.
I don't know what they consider pharmaceutical over in Moldova and neither do u. That site is a government site and Balkan is on it. So does that not make it an approved pharmaceutical from Moldova? Btw ashop doesn't make Balkan so there stealth gear isn't Balkan there just a reseller of balkan. I think some countries do produce tren for human use bro it's a lot different over the pond than it is here.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/roidders-vs-alpha-pharma-...
This link talks about how u can buy tren from pharmacies in Thailand. Just bc pharmaceutical companies don't make tren here doesn't mean in parts of the world they dont. Just look at how China does there Medicine they do crazy things all the time we do new world medicine and they do old world medicine. I'm pretty sure the fda doesn't approve much of there views but that doesn't mean it don't happen
The only TRENBOLONE you can register in EU ( because Moldova has EU laws since they stamped the EU integration document) is the Trenbolone Acetate 75mg per ml because was produced by Negma before and is allowed for registration and was never put on a forbidden list.
Maybe in Thailand sell UG in pharmacies ....
So pharmaceutical companies can make tren there as u stated .i learn something new everyday.is negma a pharmacy and is it still around producing tren today?
Negma stop produces their tren Hexa in 1997.