Images from Vermodje Lab bust
Vermodje factory and manufacturing conditions
Vermodje: http://youtu.be/pWBbya9ONtU
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I would not care if juice is produced in kitchen. But be honest write is UG and make it clean. Do not make in wet underground full of bacteria using used water jugs. Post pictures from your clean kitchen and you will be respected, not pictures stolen from websites showing doctors and do not say is legal brand. If you lie about production process how we can trust that you have right dossages ?
Pictures from Vermodje website were stolen from here
http://teguar.com/news-press/pharmaceutical-computing.html
http://www.pharmamanufacturing.com/articles/2008/042/
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/velesco-pharma/velesco...
http://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/pharmaceutical.html
http://www.theresonance.com/2012/categories/pharmaceutical/integrated-sp...
If Vermodje say this video is wrong then please open your doors for a factory tour. Invite few mods and members that is cheap for you.
I know Vermodje is priced as low as 1 USD per mililiter does not matter what product you buy if you buy in bulk and combined ( many products ). But the low price allways come with low quality is not possible either way. So many sources will defend since profit is big. I just say to those guys: bring the proofs make a factory tour , is best advertising for you best money invested. Why would you pay poor bodybyilders from russia and make expensive video clips advertising your brand when a factory tour would be the best advertising ?
Do not bring as proves blood work. Bloods you can do only for test and is well known UG put mainly prop or cheaper esters . Open doors for factory to show you are honest..Do it, is best way for you now
Anyway next week I will get more videos from the second DVD. I will come with more ...
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Lol very true
Again I want to acknowledge that I am in no way trying to take any sides here with what I dug up. If it would've been 100% proving that vermodje was in fact a legitimate pharmaceutical company I would've posted that as well. Just reiterating bc I know how fast some are to start labeling ppl as fanboys/shills to protect their source/lab. I feel that maybe this is something we as a community should try and dig up facts on and them; so that we may help out our community. For me whether Vermodje is pharm, ugl doesn't matter. Like I stated previously I have no intention on using them simply bc there has always been something off about them to me. This is just the way I perceive them. Hell they may even be the shit. Idk and could care less. I do care about the well being of guys in this community that are just like myself. So, maybe we should take our own path to finding out and disregard the arguments these sources are putting out here.
You brought very good informations. Same informations I posted those days just better written. A gang bought a old factory that had no value and tried all their best to keep PAPERS ALIVE by switching from human to veterinary grade. Finally there were busted and the video is here shows their real conditions.
They can prove very easy that I am wrong if they have a licensed factory.
Some one should close this treat for God's sake. Once the SRC gets involved is nothing but trusting his word against another one word & we all know everyone is going to defend his own cause. If not I guess I go grab me some popcorn & watch this post get out of proportion!
I brought evidences. They should do the same. Please Vermodje do a factory tour, I pay few tickets if you do not afford and prove I am wrong. I promise if you do a factory tour I will ask excuses here in public. Do it guys !
Get your popcorn. They may both be sources but we benefit as a community by digging through the dirt to find the truth.
Will do, do you want butter on your popcorn sir?
Exactly ! If I am a source and I bring you in attention something does not mean I lie or I hate competition. Is just because they sell shit and say is licensed. Nothing else. I never attacked a honest UG. You do not realize is in your best interest to find out the truth ?
Yes we are doing a campaign to prove that Vermodje is a UGL and that it is nothing else. Victimization and blaming of ashop of uncovering all informations ain't proving Vermodje is a legal manufacturer of drugs.
Next days I will post papers where it shows imports of raws on Vermodje ( 100 grams of methandienone) in few year. I will post a paper that is coming from their company where they say WE NEVER PRODUCED ANY PRODUCT IN LAST YEARS at the police inquiry and so on.
Also I will have a police report on their last bust where it states they are accused by illegal production and many many others...
RustyhookerYou got caught below. Lol. This thread is nothing g more than a bad info-mertial. Ford versus chevy. Or audio versus BMW.
Truth tho, the Vermodje side of the argument has offered up nothing yet as far as evidence. Alin on the other hand may not go about things the right way sometimes but you gotta give the guy credit when he is convinced of something he will argue it to the death, lol.
RustyhookerHe will argue good points all day sir. But Noone keeps up with karl. Lol.
I just want good gear. Seems easy....
That is what we all want. Apparently not as easy as it seems..
Lol just posted the same thing your post wasn't here when I made mine
It's all good. All I care is that we get to the truth, or at least as close to it as possible. If we find out any source is making totally unsafe gear, in particular if it is claimed to be pharma we should be diligent in bringing it to light. That being said I fully encourage Nandro to bring to the table whatever he has as well. I would like to see this discussion remain cordial and to the point.
BTW, if anyone has BING and can translate them Moldovian news articles please do. Thanks
Google chrome has a built in translator as well. It automatically translates for me any time I open a page containing a different language.
I agree 100 percent. I'm hoping the complete truth will come out. Hope your bag of popcorn is butter free
I have this kick ass amish popcorn, it is dark colored seeds. I use sunflower oil and sea salt, but you know I have to add just a little bit of real butter man. lol. They make three or four different styles of their popcorn and brother compared to the regular store bought stuff it is fantastic.
Really Amish popcorn huh. There an Amish restaurant an hour from my house we go to every now and again. Love that place
Yes ! When I am wrong I shut up or I admit right away. But when I am right I will fight for this. I am not very diplomatic I admit.
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What i got caught ? Do not jump just watch it closely. They are just a bunch of guys who bought papers of a old factory and produce steroids in unsanitary conditions. Is not a Chevy is a time bomb. Do not be so naive nothing in Vermodje is better than any UG. I think a UG is better than Vermodje honestly.
It's been alin the whole time. I'm surprised no one figured that out
Found this on another forum fellas. Check it out. There's links here as well for the republic of Moldova to check these companies.
I'm not picking any sides here. Just tried to dig a little deeper. I've never had any interest in using vermodje and most likely never will. I have my own reasons for that beside everything I've seen here. Just thought maybe you guys would be interested in this information. You will have to use translate for some of the links. Mine translates automatically so it makes it easier.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/vermodje-lab-busted-6356-...
http://adevarul.ro/moldova/actualitate/producatorii-farmaceutici-isi-inc...
Yes those guys are right and they really have done their homework better than me .......................................just as a mention that now even veterinary require a license and clean conditions so they have no right to produce even veterinary products. Much more since last year they were busted and they are not even touching old, dirty location as it was. They produce in different garages moving all the time because police will get them second time and will be prison time
However you do realize and NONE of Vermodje anabolics except the Dbol are registered in Moldova neither with the National Medicine Agency neither with the Veterinary Medicine Agency, right? In Moldova's customs over the last 3 years its just a minor import of methandienone made by Vermodje SRL and NONE for trenbolone, boldenone, etc. If I'm wrong please prove me with a online database of an official institution in Moldova about Boldenone, Trenbolone, Oxandrolone or other products of Vermodje... but you can't.
Not to mention that Vermodje is no longer approved to manufacture any of the human drugs it manufactured in the past, because in the past in Moldova there were no sanitary or pharmaceutical guidelines or regulations, was a country where anyone could open a manufacturing unit with little money and no machinery, cleanroom or analytical lab. Since last year Moldova requires the factories to comply with the GMP guidelines with lead to Vermodje abandon the human grade business completely. Look at their building, where is the HVAC system on that building? That building cannot ever have a HVAC ventilation system because the ceiling is very low and the rooms very small.
In conclusion, Vermodje is a veterinary grade factory, that follows absolutely no human grade pharmaceutical manufacturing standards and has none of their anabolics registered or even has any history of import of raw material (except the Dianabol). I'm willing to argue more with anyone that wants to prove me wrong. Vermodje = low cost UGL.
I did read that the only legit, legal product is the Dbol. The report I translated to English mentioned exactly what your saying about the trenbolone, Boldenone and a few other products as well.
Lets take it step by step.
1) www.ansa.gov.md (<- this is the veterinary medicine catalog of the Republic of Moldova). Please feel free to search it and let me know where you see any of Vermodje injectable or any reference to Trenbolone, Boldenone, etc.)
2) https://tinyurl.com/qbf9f82
(<- its an article regarding the current pharmaceutical manufacturing market conditions in Moldova, after the country has introduced GMP pharmaceutical standards)
Quote from the article:
Many pharmaceutical manufacturers are forced to close their factories or change their activity to veterinary drugs or fertilizers because they cannot obtain the needed certifications to continue operations in manufacturing human grade drugs. Only 4 domestic manufacturers out of the existing 28 got their GMP certificate and 12 of them are in process of implementing the GMP standard. Other 12 are forced to close down their factories or change their activity because they cannot meet the international manufacturing guidelines.
Vermodje SRL, one manufacturing company from Ghidighici, which until last year was manufacturing caps tabs found a solution: “Since last year we’ve changed our manufacturing to veterinary drugs, because this ones don’t need any GMP certificate”, said Victor Trifoi, the manager of the company.
3). Most Vermodje products are in fact manufactured in China by Wuhan Fortuna Chemical Co.LTD, China and only marketed by Vermodje. Wuhan Fortuna Chemical Co.LTD, China is a Chinese factory that is not approved to manufacture of sell any human grade API in China! Its a chemical factory not a pharmaceuticai API factory. This can easily be proved by searching the database of SFDA China, the regulatory body for Food & Drug in China.
4). Vermodje was rejected by the ANSA (National Agency for Food Safety) the registration of Trenbolone, Boldenone, Turinabol and more items, decision which went to trial and was decided the decision was correct.
losingtheplotI wrote that post, thanks for the copyright however
Excuse me I did not wrote that I copied those posts from you. Honestly things were much better explained than I could do it.
Their manufacturing unit is nothing more than a UGL especially for the injectable section which doesn't have a proper cleanroom, technological flux, HVAC or certified API for pharmaceutical manufacturing (the API imported by Vermodje was done by contraband and from chemical manufacturers in China not from Pharmaceutical raw material suppliers, exactly the same as any other UGL).
losingtheplotTheir raws were bought through Ecochimie or contraband, you are right, but so are most UGL or even some "pharma grade" I don't think this is the right approach to the subject but rather the dishonest business practices and their over-inflated "pharmaceutical product" image they want to spread all over. Pharmaceutical companies are complex business structures which encompass plenty of technological specialists (GMP specialists, chemists, manufacturing managers, quality control department). Vermodje has none of this which makes them just a UGL. Adding this to the fact they are shady and try to plaster a false image about themselves makes them unworthy of trust. However, ashop, just let it be, I think everybody in his own sense can draw a conclusion already about this subject. You're overreacting, seriously, Vermodje will never open the door, what door should they open? Garage door?
By the way, one overlooked detail is why is Vermodje using Terapia Ranbaxy brand image and design of the boxes? Isn't this brand image infringement or at least shady business practices? They claim to have bought the "NAPOSIM" brand but I still haven't seen any proof regarding this, from my point of view the first time I saw Vermodje products I knew something is fishy, if you're planning to create a solid decent brand why hijack the image of another brand?
Yes you are right. They copied Naposim brand in their try to confuse people. They did not bought Naposim please go on www.terapia.ro and check for Naposim, Is still Ranbaxy brand.
Those guys are just playing with papers and thats all I wanted to show. Maybe I overreacted yes but I am angry because they laugh in people face with things they do. They should say they are a UGL and they will never hear my mouth.
NandroXXl you are their reseller here. Please arrange a visit to their factory for few members. If they are a real operation this is the best way to prove I am wrong and to advertise them. Imagine how good advertising is for them such a visit. People would post everywhere how great that factory was, how they were sterilizing amps and vials and how clean is the air system
Alin, why didn't you just post this under your regular username instead of this duplicate account? Now we have to decide what to do about this. For as long as you have been around here you should already know we are going to catch you..SMH
So why this is illegal ? I have access to that account me and my friend yes is true. Also there is not any lie there. I will get police report and everything. As long as information is true I see that there is not any problem. Also that account is used also by my friend who get all those informations so please unblock so he can continue to post.
For the moment it is but you definitely have my attention now.
OK Thanx
RustyhookerPale is razor sharp!
Beware of the man that rides a pale horse..... when he rides he brings death with him
RustyhookerCountry is size of virginia. Should be simple to drive to gmp labs and home video. For size reference, I drove from France to the south east of Europe in 6 hours at 75mph....120kph. I'd like to see both labs honestly. If it's gmp....
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova
I can make a tour of all factories here so you get a idea how is the production and all. There are few like 3 big factories and few small labs. Since they are located in same area where I live I know everyone. I do not know if Vermodje will open door ( sure not ) but I take you there also. Is good you contact them before maybe they wash the windows so will look clean from outside
. Sent you a PM with details lets clear those things once.
^^^ This ^^^
porcdecaineYes !!!!!! Is simple and cheap for any legal company. I have direct cheap plane to Chisinau. Lets do a visit to factories there. I pay my own expenses. I wait for invitations
RustyhookerSweet! My passport is gtg...fyre....lol. If gear costs same as pharma, it should be easy to prove.
Whether or not that is just storage doesn't matter to me. I think those are pretty shitty storage conditions. PVC bottles to store oils in. Vials that are not guaranteed to be autoclaved at any point. In my mind this new evidence lends more credence to this old gem:
https://www.eroids.com/news/sorry-but-this-seems-important-vermodje
If Vermodje busted I would like to see some proof and not a you tube video. Shouldn't there be a police report in news paper or some other concrete evidence. It's just hard for me to believe a you tube video, but I would like to know the truth either way
porcdecaineSure. I wait for papers and I will post em
I'm super curious if vermodje is ugl or pharmaceutical.I've seen countless documents about Balkan on here but not one from vermodje. If there from the same country and there legit shouldn't in the very least vermodje can post some paper works like this
https://www.eroids.com/pics/danabol-10mg-by-balkan-pharmaceuticals
Seen any tour of the facilities would be great but even some paper work would be nice
In Moldova is very easy to check if a company is real and is producing drugs. Check informations posted there:
https://www.eroids.com/discussions/lab/balkan-pharmaceuticals
That link was in the other post I posted if u click on it. I was already on that website. Seems like this should be a very easy process to see if vermodje is ugl or pharmaceutical
Edit I tried to look but once i get to category medical what do I down load? Language barrier lol. Never mind I found it and I clearly see Balkan and some other pharmaceutical companies but no vermodje