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Somebody asked me how I foot off subs. I’m going to post for everybody. This is pretty simple but pay attention to the end. The end part is the important part!!!

I got off last year. I was on 8 mgs a day. It takes a few months but I did it like this. Pay attention when I get to the last few weeks.
I took 7.5 mgs for two weeks.
I took 7 mgs a day for two weeks
6.5 mgs a day for two weeks
6 mgs a day for two weeks
5.5 a day for two weeks
5 a day for two weeks
4.5 a day for two weeks
4 a day for two weeks
3.5 a day for two weeks
3 a day for two weeks
2.5 a day for two weeks
2 mgs a day for two weeks
1.5mgs a day 4 weeks.
When you get to this point it’s gonna get harder but you won’t be sick but you will feel sore but only a little.
1 mg a day for 4 weeks
2/3 of a mg for three weeks
1/2 a mg for three weeks
1/4 a mg for three weeks
1/4 a mg when you start feeling sick. DO NOT USE A CHEAT!!!! Be strict
This works and I got off and didn’t have any withdrawals at all. When I tried to come off fast that that my legs hurt and couldn’t sleep and sweated up a storm. The last month only take when you start feeling sick and eventually you won’t feel sick anymore and realize you kicked the habit.

shaun1's picture

I was on subs for close to five years, I was 24mgs a day, over the course of that 5 years I realized I had done nothing but trade one addiction for another. I had attempted several to go full cold turkey but my God the withdrawals from subs was a 100 times worse than pain patches and roxy's. I wouldbe bed ridden for day's I couldn't get out of bed other than to crawl to the bathroom room and shit my guts out, you know I would get what they call restless legs so bad till I would take my fist and just beat and beat on them till I was black and blue. I couldn't ever get past 4 or 5 day's without subs, I hated myself and what I had become. A few years had gone by and I decided it was Time kick the subs once in for all. I started working my way down slowly from 24mgs a day all the way to 4mgs a day, this took about a year, the longest year of my life. Another 6months has gone by and now I'm at 2mgs a day and surprisingly I really couldn't tell the difference between 4mgs and 2mgs. For the first time in years I was proud of myself and I was allowing myself to be happy but I was still a slave to the 2mgs of subs, it still had its grip on me. Fast forward another 6months or so and i had finally had enough of this shit, I was sick and tired of being a slave to this litter orange strip of hell. That day as the day I flushed my remaining stripes down the toilet, I told myself I was done with this shit, no fucking more. It's been 5 years and I've been clean from pills and subs. I don't know how I kicked the habit I guess it was by the grace of God but today I'm free.

PrimoPantani's picture

Personally, I just went cold turkey after 5 years of 16 mg a day. This is back when it was pills and I was on subutex without the narcan or whatever they put in there. Not as acutely bad as kicking dope but goddamn was I sick for a long time. I don’t think I had a solid shit for four months.

Izzy75's picture

Suboxone has buprenorphine and naloxone (narcan). The prior is a partial agonist the next one is an antagonist. Subutex is buprenorphine only. They added the naloxone later because people were injecting the buprenorphine along with heroin to get even higher. If you try to use heroin while using Suboxone you will get sick very fast. Also if you try to inject Suboxone you will get horrible side effects. The naloxone is like a preventive measure for stopping stupid decisions.

PrimoPantani's picture

Yeah, I was injecting my subutex so this all lines up

Izzy75's picture

Those medications have a purpose if they are used correctly. But for me personally I just hate them to the core. My experience was not good on those. I'm talking back in 1998.

PrimoPantani's picture

I’m the same way. I know that some people theoretically can get good results from them but my personal experience, and the experience of my friends, is that they only delayed my getting sober. At the end of the day, being addicted to suboxone is better than being on dope but you’re still addicted. Glad you made it out brother, it’s been 14 years clean and serene for me.

Pete J W's picture

I understand where you're coming from. Ive had a 30 year on and off heroin habit. I always said I'd never use sub meds until I did. The question I ended up asking is what is being sober? Holding a job, being happy, a good father and husband? These things I couldn't have been without such an intervention. So my perception has changed somewhat. Being sober is a quality of life regardless of how it's been achieved. A very individual experience I'd say. A lot may disagree but after 30 years of the kind of chaos only an opiate addiction can bring. I'll take sober with the help of morphine.

press1's picture

I feel lucky in that I don't know what the hell you are talking about here Bill Lol I have seen a lot of members talking about this over the years though.

Bill1976's picture

Coming off Suboxone is hard and it suck’s but if you do it this way it’s very easy. I literally had no withdrawal at all it’s just a long process

Izzy75's picture

I used Suboxone for about 5 years straight, back when it was sort of experimental and was a tablet instead of a film. I tried your method, but I guess that because it was a tablet instead of the film it was more difficult to cut down to just a 1/4mg. I was sick and puking for about 10 more days.
But with the film that's exactly the way to go. It does takes a lot of self discipline to do this but it can be done, I've been out of that life for over 10 years and I'm a very happy family man now a days.