Variables and perimeters I think we should track and discuss
Just a few thoughts on what to track in this experiment and not in this particular order:
1) Test to Mast ratio. Being that we are running different doses of test we should be able to track two things.Viking is running the highest amount of test but I am not sure if he will be higher than SDM's 200 prop a day. I will graph these cycles this weekend. (I think I thought of a way to just change one variable to chart each cycle easily). The concentration of test on the charts compared to the difference between our starting test levels and quarter or mid cycle labs will give us a comparison as to how effective the test is in our cycle. (obviously every body is different so there will have to be some consideration on this point).
By establishing this test number we can compare it to the concentration levels of mast that we are hypothesizing will be in our system. Being that we should all be at different levels we can quantify with some accuracy how effective 300 mg of mast is in relation to the test.
2)Mast to Deca ratio. Same as above only with deca instead of test.
3) Provi and free test ratio. This one would be less reliable unless everyone has copies of their past labs specifically on free test before cycles and during standard cycles without the provi. If we had that data we could compare it in this experiment to see how much proviron actually frees test from the SBHG.
Any thoughts on what else we should track?
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What do you guys think about getting another group of less experienced but still capable men to do a simultaneous base line group? They would take a standard AI and test cycle with maybe one other compound. They would track the SHBG, Free Test, Test Serum and E2. This will help us determine the effectiveness of the provi in comparison to a typical cycle in regards to free test range. Just a thought brothers.
I think it is a great idea! It it is something that you guys decide to run with I will keep an eye out for perspective candidates.
AnonI need a science and math guy to tell me how we intend on tracking E2 and determining if the conclusion is that Mast and Provi works as a replacement for AI? With so many differing factors in this I need a baseline established and I need a chart from you Havoc on those ratios you mentioned above. Do u feel what I'm saying?
I'm grasping how we are going to concretely measure success.
Unless we decide that the dosages of MAst and Mest can be moved around and not stuck at 300 and 50 I have a feeling some may respond while others might not. Talk to me havoc
I hear ya Sexy! LOL. I am thinking that we will start with the first labs and plot the E2 level on the graph underneath the test level. The problem is that the best we can do at that point is look at the E2 level as a snapshot of what the levels are. This is obviously because we cannot take bloods every day. So the first graph will have a simple horizontal line representing the E2 in our system. We can however, plot the levels at each lab interval to quantify how our levels change in relation to time and test in our system. Test levels will easily be charted as they are expected to go up until they plateau. We can compare these changes in percentages to the changes in the E2 and the ratios between E2 and test like I mentioned above. Likewise with the mast to test and mast to E2. I will graph some of my past cycles and post them in this group this weekend to illustrate what I am so poorly trying to say!!! I am looking forward to this experiment!
Finally I can't wait to graph the provi to free test ratios. That will be cool to see if the free test makes that big of a difference in dryness and hardening.
AnonPerfect. I think perhaps it should be considered amongst those of u running the expirement to allow for a higher dose of either Mast or Prov if the E2 levels come back a lil high. I think flexibility in the dosages could very well find some extra success.
Absolutely. Will certainly have additional on hand should that situation arise.
AnonMan having you in the expiriment sure is a nice sight. I've always had an amazing amount of respect for you and your knowledge brother. This group is filled with some amazing talent. I sure cant wait to see this thing get going.
Thanks mate, likewise for yourself.