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I know on paper its supposed to be a type of myostatin inhibitor but i had the best pumps and strength increases using it vs everything else. I held my weight while on it, and upon switching i slowly lost 10lbs on lgd and rad.
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Do u think the loss on Lgd and rad was from suppression after u came off.Im asking because I'm on my first cycle and wondering if I should run a pct after
What source did you use?
BandoleroAny thoughts on using this in a cut? a low carb, high fat/protein diet with lots of cardio maybe combined with SR9009??
I'm taking it with a whole cocktail of other SARMS at the moment, one of them being SR9009. Made a SR9009 nasal spray to try to increase the amount absorbed...not sure how well it works though.
BandoleroWhats your dosage on the SR ? I heard it works well subligually
And are you liking the YK-11?
YK-11 seems very strong, loving it.
For SR I'm only doing about 3mg twice daily
ie. one spray in each nostril
I have done 20mg sublingually in the past but it only has about 2.2% bio-availability and taking it sublingually I doubt raises that too much more.
No studies have been done so...yeah hard to tell whats effective.
BandoleroAlright dude - I read in a bunch of different forums that the oral bioavailability for SR is low but I have it on good authority that this is not the case. Theres an individual that is involved with alot of these studies on sarms and is somewhat well known and we talked. The half life is definitely short and requires dosing at least 3 times a day.
The minimum dose I was advised to take is no less than 30mg a day. 10mg 3x daily... I am also weary about the different solvents these companies use to suspend it and how knowledgable these guys are ...
Some solvents can have an effect on the compound itself take for example RAD-140... Water will just about destroy it.
SR9009 is supposed to be very stable in DMSO but I was able to find SR in raw powder form and gunna make a purchase tomorrow and see how it works.
Got my eyes on that YK-11!!!!!!!!
Supposedly someone emailed the lead researcher and posted his response. Which was that the bio-availability was very low. I would agree that subilingually you are able to absorb more, however, there is no way to tell how much more without more studies.
Been looking for a new raw powder source. I got 2 grams of powder from a source that's no longer around.
Using a mix of DMSO and Popelyne Glycol as a solvents to spray nasally. It burns somewhat..but seems to be ok...
If someone could release it in sterile vials...injecting it is where we would probably really see results.
BandoleroAre you getting any results with the spray? All the logs for SR are basically consistant and undeniable.. It seems to work just how strong the effect is, would be the question... This is where a really good chemist would come in handy!
I am planning on dumping the powder under my tongue.. will report back here next week!
Energy after I take it..definitely yes...especially before the gym.
As far as endurance I think GW still beats it. I can run 5 miles on gw without much effort and want to keep on going. With SR I do notice an endurance boost, but it doesn't seem to be as much.
I have dosed it sublingually as well...
Why not mix with Prop Glycol to use it sublingually. Measuring out that small amount would be a PITA.
I have used Prop Glycol to mix powder for sublingual use. I use a homemade magnetic stirrer and a jewelry cleaner (sonicator) to mix the solution until it becomes clear.
BandoleroI just get leery about how the solvents can effect the compound itself. I mean I didnt know simple water can ruin RAD-140 and this is concern since I am buying all these sarms in raw powder form since its way cheaper. Normally I would want to suspend it in a little ethanol and PEG400....
I was gunna combine GW and SR until I burn enough fat then add either RAD-140 or YK-11.
Do you ever experience any hair thinning or prostate effects from RAD-140 or YK-11 ?? Im curious!
Rad140 is supposed to reduce prostate size even when taken alongside Test....its actually supposed to be good to take when on TRT or on cycle due to that. Never experienced any prostate issues that I know of...not sure about YK-11...just no enough out there yet. It seems very strong...not like any other SARM I have tried.
As for hair...I have taken a lot of SARMS and have done Test, Tren, and various other Prohormones. I lost more hair while on Test, Tren or Prohormones than I do while I'm on SARMS. (YK-11 excluded...just started that one...)
I have an excess of hair though...so take that with a grain of salt. Everyone in my family is hairy...lol
I usually try to look up the chemical profile and or research articles that usually tell you what they used as a solvent. The chemical profile will usually state its solubility in various substances...and usually will tell you if its water soluble.
Or you can always test a small amount...you'll see right away some substances will clump up and fall apart if you try to add water.
Propelyne Glycol is my go to solvent..."Propylene glycol is used as a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations, such as for diazepam and lorazepam which are insoluble in water."
Followed by Everclear.....for things like GW which are soluble in Ethanol...
If all else fails pharmaceutical grade DMSO...from a glass bottle, since that stuff will leech everything. If you use DMSO...try not to keep it in contact with plastic...ie try using glass everything even the dropper you use since it can leech chemicals from plastic, store in a glass vial.
BandoleroGreat info - thanks Flash!
Also, GW and SR are awesome and all but they still don't compare at all to DNP when it comes to fat loss. Did a cycle of RAD and DNP...very low 4wk, 200mg DNP daily dose because its so toxic..and dropped 5-6lbs of pure fat...without loosing any strength at all and no actual change in diet.
Want to do another cycle eventually maybe a little higher and at an actual calorie deficit.
I had an appendectomy a few years ago and its been a PITA to get back to that shredded look I had prior to that surgery. Have a football player look currently...that one DNP cycle has gotten be about half way there I would say.
Been taking 5mg AM, 5mg PM.
So far...
Pros
Seems like some strong stuff... strength up, vascularity up, definite shutdown.
Cons
Started getting zits everywhere...body and face. Other SARMS don't make me break out typically, harsher steroids/pro-hormones typically do.
Also, not 100% sure if this is due to YK11 but have had issues sleeping while on this.
Good to hear that. Yes, it increases the follistatine level which lowers the myostatine level. The real benefit of YK-11 shines through a longer (ab)use. Until we don't know more about its effects and ways how it works, I wouldn't recommend to use it a longer period.
I will research it also in 3-4 months
I have to agree FTS, but from my blood work it suppresses pretty hard. My LH and FSH were good but my test serum had dropped to like 265 after 4 weeks use. So it should only be used during a cycle or on trt. That being said yes YK 11 is awesome, better than any oral steroid I've ever used.
Did you notice any HDL suppression when you ran labs?
Sorry chorlestarol wasn't in the panel.
RustyhookerDoses? Any sides?
I had zero sides. Liver values were fine too. I got up to 24mg a day
RustyhookerVery cool! Thank you
That sounds promising, indeed. 24mg/ed sounds very high.
BandoleroCan this be compared to, say winny or superdrol?
I got a few monster zits, i think it was hormonal fluxuations. Some of the biochem gurus are saying it's actually a steroid and not a SARM because it has a 4 chain base like a steroid would. I'm kinda leaning that way on my thinking, from the gains, zits, and shut down I got it very well could be. Appetite was crazy I could eat and eat and eat and then eat some more!
RustyhookerAppetite booster sounds perfect on bulker