Short ester cycle plan
Hey Fellas,
I am planning for my next cycle coming up in about 4-6a weeks. I was really interested in running a cut stack, but thought against it due to the tren a content. I instead am thinking of doing a test p, mast p, with a var taper. This way I can experience the mast compound prior to doing the cut stack blend and not knowing which compound is doing what. Here is what the cycle might look like:
weeks 1-10 Test P 150mg eod
weeks 1-10 Mast P 100mg eod
weeks 6-10 Var 50mg ed
I have pharma adex on hand for AI
I have aromasin from a research site for AI too
I have pharma proviron on hand
I use liver support year round
I will go back to my 150mg/week test e trt
I have used only long esters for my 3 cycles and wanted to get drier, leaner gains with minimal bloat this time.
After speaking with P, we thought it was a pretty solid plan, but wanted to get feedback from the other fellas. My stats are in my profile if needed. My compound experience Test E, HGH, D-bol, Winny, and proviron.
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Good layout. Run the var for at least 6 weeks to notice the effects, however you could replace the var with winny oral or injectable, you chose. I would drop the proviron, both mast and proviron are very similar compounds and too many dht's in your cycle will more than likely cause you prostate issues.
Good looking out!
Honestly I'd run the var a little longer. You will be blown away by Var from running it longer like 1-2 weeks longer
If I can afford it I will do it for 6 weeks. LOL Geneza is what I have my eye on, but it is over $500 for a 10pk of 50ct 10mg pills. That plus the $400 for the prop and mast makes this cycle about $1000. By far my most expensive cycle, but if the results are on point it will be worth it. Would you dose the var multiple times per day to achieve the daily dose?
Well I normally would use 50mg caps of var, which includes 50 for $75 (best var I ever had). But if you want to use geneza thats cool. Geneza is great.
I'd do 50-75mg per day Var.
If you got 10mg tabs you can do 2 pills every 6-8 hours or so.
So.....after reading your post about test prop not being a magical bloatless form of test, could I ammend the cycle to test e/mast e and only pin twice per week and get the same lean, dry gains I am looking to get?
Right. I mean there may be a little more water, but in all honesty it should NOT be noticeable.
You are taking masteron which should also keep you extra dry. I'd say go for it if you'd like. If you are so paranoid about keeping water retention at a minimum, you could even pin enanthates 3x a week like mon/wed/fri.
Up to you. But as long as you are running masteron, clean diet, and good AI dose, you should not have much any water retention at all.
Thanks again. I will ponder on this before deciding.
I am not hell bent on using gp, so if u want to pm me your source I can check them out. I am on a pharma kick. I like the peace of mind knowing I am getting what I pay for
I've done a simple cycle like this before and loved it. If you want a drier and vascular look, this can do it...no need for tren.I think u could actually run var a little longer at that dosage or u might play around with dosage to see if there's a sweet spot.
So do the var for weeks 4-10 then? I can listen to my body like I do for AI as well for a sweet spot.
Also, should I continue using the proviron I am running through my cruise @25mg per day, bump it to 50mg, or lose it during the cycle.
From my experience, you could safely run it for that amount of time. My liver values were elevated, but nothing extreme and after the cycle they returned to normal quickly. As far as the proviron is concerned, unless someone has another opinion, I'm inclined to believe you wouldn't need to use during this cycle as masteron has similarities; e.g. they're both dht derivatives, reduces aromatization, help with libido, though they don't act the same in the body and masteron is suppose to be more anabolic. I think you could drop the proviron for this cycle.
Thanks for your input. That is what I was thinking too. I like to bounce things off the fellas before making my purchases.
That's always good idea. We'll see if anyone else would like to chime in.