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Last cycle went well so modifying last cycle to observe the changes.
1 - front load mast e 800
2-7 npp 300 split ed for easy pins. Prop in there 4 wks
2-18 eq 750
2-21 mast e 400
2-21 sust/cyp/enanthate 500
22-25 taper
Tne used in cycle for uptake. Going to try 2 pins a day hour before meal.
Provi in cycle.
Peps...Frag 250mcg before bed....cjo 100mcg pwo and lunch time.
End cycle peps hex and cjo 100mcg each 3 times daily with whey.
Pct...All in 1 tabs
Thanks catalyst
updated
Sust 750
Mast 600-----added in week 4 to offset npp drop week 8
Tne....put away.
Thanks for the feedback!!
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RustyhookerIf the pip gets bad I can switch. Sounds like the brands are good and strong. Npp/test with dbol is old classic. I saw that new guaicol forum too.
Wish I could afford pharma hgh. But until kids split, I'll stick to simple. Lol.
Ya you really gotta go pharma. I messed around with generics for a long time and I regret it. Not the money wasted but the anti body build up.
I've found gh to be totally worthless for muscle gain. And there's new study's coming out on serostim showing no gain in lean muscle on the patients over a 20 week period. And these are the people runjijg 18ius of pharma a day. But my coach showed me how to use it for muscle gain without slin. And that's by taking the entire dose at night time with some carbs before bed. You grow when you sleep, so having all that gh in your system when your growing and recovering is what you need. What people don't know is real gh causes insulin resistance. So by dosing all day long you're just creating an insulin resistant environment all day long which is the exact opposite of what we want. We want to use our natural spikes of slin to transport nutrients to the muscles and by shootin gh all day long were just suppressing insulin meaning no uptake and shuttling of nutrients. This is why you hear people say if your running high doses of real hgh you basically have to use slin or you'll go diabetic or be in a diabetic state.
I'm still up in the air when cutting tho. Gh is a good (bjt very expensive ) fat burner. So it may be benedical to split shots like rigjt before am fasted cardio to have it in your system all day. Idk tho, the way he has my plan setup even when I switch to full on cutting prep mode is all my gh at night. But will see.
RustyhookerThat's one reason I started reading about peptides. Short spikes and feed during spike or fasted cardio depending on goals. I have no way at this point in time to prove/disprove the efficacy. Only 25 days in. I'm a person with high libido but on these peps I'm extra gtg...fyre....lol. I feel hardness and fullness in muscles too. Feel like minor pump all day. Happy and energetic.
But of course if I don't run foods correct there's a waste of time and funds.
RustyhookerStarted the eq today. Train is rollin.
Peps still doing their job.
Awesome. What did you decide to run? You got NPP back in the mix as well?
RustyhookerRoid and catalyst helped adjust the timing. The original plan had a cliff on there so stepped back to rethink. Npp for the initial spurt then let eq/mast do their jobs.
This week did a good bump of eq. Next week will be fully in it.
I have 2 bac waters. 1 is german pharma and hospira brand. The hospira brand gave me some allergies so hit benadryl and no peps for few days.
Sore as hell today. I switch workouts every 6 to 8 weeks. I haven't done a solid shocker for quite some time so hitting 8+ sets with medium weight. As soon as the burn is gone next set. So probably a minute between. Feels great to do but stiff. Lol. Few weeks like this then change.
Ok good to see you got it worked out. I don't think the reaction was to the bacteriostatic water though. I've had this shit happen to me before. One time I pinned some ghrp 2, first pin after I just reconstituted it and boom welt where I pinned and then they started popping up randomly all over my mid section. Took some benydryl and was fine. Let the vial sit a couple days and tried it again and it was fine. So I think the BW neutralized whatever was in the vial, whether it was just really fresh and potent, toxins or what idk. But what I do know is I'm allergic to shellfish very allergic and most of the peptide companies are like these protein companies and are housed in places where they process shellfish. Anyway I don't think it was the BW, if it was only think that you would get is a little red swelling and local soreness for a day or 2. If you didn't throw the peps out let it sit a few days and try it, of course have Benadryl close by though.
RustyhookerYessir, kept em. Benadryl on hand. Was thinking with pin spots around belly button things would eventually get some irritation. I'll give your idea a try. Definitly not on a rush schedule. Few days off peps sounds perfect!
you're running a combo of Test C test E and Sust at only 500mgs ew?
RustyhookerWas going to start with sust for faster rise in hormones then been in cyp/enanthate. Was trying to not blast a full front load like I usually do with sust. Haven't started yet but if I went the route last posted, there's a drop in hormones about week 12. The combo of dropping from 750 test to 500 and npp being dropped would flatten out.
Other good option was switching from npp to tren but I'm not trt and recovery might be non existant. I even considered week 7 switch in 1test. So the total overall hormone drop wouldn't be significant.
I would just forget about the sustanon and go straight test E/C since you are going to be using TNE 2 x Ed you will already have your test kicking in quick as lightning. Keep test 500 whole way through and run your NPP the first 6'weeks and then the EQ will be kicking in. Basically what I'm running now minus the TNE but running drol and I'm loving this cycle.
RustyhookerSounds solid. Just had to regroup and simplify. Thanks to you guys!
Haven't run drol yet. I got a chunk of it during promo. Possibly this winter will give it a go.
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The peps and pinning has been easy. Sex drive is up so can't complain about that. Went from freak to flat out pervy. Lol
Don't get greedy and forget about the foreplay or you'll be spending a lot of time playing ping pong lol.
RustyhookerHaha! No worries there bro. The tease is the best.
Why you starting EQ and test week 2?
RustyhookerSnaps! Good catch! The mast is to tame the test to estro. No need waiting on eq though.
are you estro prone?
RustyhookerLast cycle no ai was used. Had to hit prop twice a week to get joints happy. But test was only 450 with mast 800.
so its likely you dont even need the mast. Mast is a very minimal Ai and if your joints where dry you probably dont need mast or an Ai. not saying dont run it, but if your running it for an Ai then you dont need to. this current cycle has nothing of concern for estro.
RustyhookerNice! Then simply to finish a lil harder the mast tail end if I'm hitting goals.
I have aro and caber if needed.
Awe hell you changed it. Steady, long, cycle. I like it. Now send me all that NPP haha. If you get tired of pinning peps you could sub it mk-677 and cjc with Dac also. It works ok I've tried it, nothing dramatic, but it will keep you somewhat lean while eating a lot.
RustyhookerMade it simpler. If I try npp I should keep it simple or switch eq for bold cyp.
Good to know! Getting good pep info isn't easy. Not a lot of quality info.
the NPP would tuck in nice 1-7, that way when you pull off the NPP you got the EQ ramping in and the hormone drop is not as dramatic. You would still loose a little bit of the fullness that NPP offers, which can be somewhat of a mental fuck, but feeling wise it wont be as bad as the last setup you had.
But if you do it that way i would drop the sust and prop kick with test-e/c for the run.
RustyhookerLess fluctuations with prop kick for sure. I kept banging head on other one for that same drop reason. It was add a ddifferent enanthate week 7 or have a drop.
Also wondered, if I roll prop kicker is there a need for 400 on the npp? Seems like 300 should be plenty for first time npp use.
42mg/d would be fine.
and yeah there was many adjustments that could have been made to that cycle, I wasnt saying drop the cycle I was saying fix it cause to much was going on weeks 10-14
RustyhookerI hear ya and I kept bonking my own head. If I was trt then sure, add the tren to harden up. It just needed a simplified approach. Started looking like kitchen sink run. Lol
Looks good, I'd maybe run some GHRP-2 or GHRP-6 with CJC throughtout PCT to help keep caloric intake up.
RustyhookerThe one I had up I tried to fit npp in first half since second half the eq bumps. But the drop in total hormones would be funky. Went back to simple.
I'm new to peptides. From reading the frag combo burns fat. The hex combo acts like hgh. I was lucky enough to get pep ideas from Vike and trenabolic.
The girl did look interesting! Everyone said the hunger was intense
when it comes to peps I have very little or zero knowledge
RustyhookerBasskiller site has description, doses etc. The guys here that know will help by pm. But there's not any stickied info.
Just took first pin of cjo no dac. Fasted cardio all done.
Yea Vike turned me onto peps also. If you get quality peps they work well.
RustyhookerThe site he showed me was cool. Found good info on basskiller toi