Next cycle idea's I have been considering.
This is hardly advanced by most of your standards, but considering tren will definitely be included I didn't want to post it on the regular forums.
First I will start with last cycle which for me was the best one yet and I really wouldn't have a problem doing it all over again which was MastE, TestE and Proviron. At week 6 tho I added tren ace and halted my mast and test dose. I started at about 30mg ED but fairly quickly worked up to 50mgED, at week 11 I dropped the MastE, at week 12 dropped the testE and started testp with the tren at 50mg each ED for the final three weeks. So far this has also been my best PCT. Thank you Viking for all of the advice you gave me along the way.
So for December I am considering a few different looks. One I was thinking is:
Sustanon M/W/F weeks 1-12
NPP M/W/F weeks 1-4 or 1-6
Tren Ace weeks 6-15
TestP weeks 12-15
Proviron weeks 1-15 @ 50mg per day.
Option #2 is just run all shorts TestP/MastP/ TrenA at 50mg each ED.
TestP 50mg ED weeks 1-10
MastP 50mg ED weeks 1-10
Tren ace 50 mg ED weeks 1-10
Proviron 50mg ED
Option #3 Basically a repeat of last cycle
Test E @ 500mg per week, weeks 1-6. Test E@ 250 weeks 6-12
MastE @ 600mg per week, weeks 1-6. MastE @300 weeks 6-12
Tren ace @ 350 per week, weeks 6-15
TestP @350mg per week weeks 12-15
Proviron 50mg ED weeks 1-15
I really had no problem pinning ED for the nine weeks I did it. Sure there were days when I wasn't too happy about it but overall I honestly think I liked it better than 2x per week.
edit: I should add I already have Sustanon, NPP and TestE at high enough quantity for a complete cycle. I also
have EQ but with my RBC's always running high I am hesitant to ever use the EQ now.
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option 1 is gonna fuck you off running that NPP in the beginning with sust. you can tweak the cycle to still make it work but as is is a no go.
option 2 i would run as is
option 3 I personally would not run, to many dips with the test dose, I dont care for the way it makes me feel when i drop my test dose. what are your sides at 50mg/d tren-a with 500mg/w test?
Option#3: I wouldn't know for sure how I did with 500 test with the tren. Last run was my first tren experience, so I wanted to lower the test below the tren. I had very little/manageable sides, a little aggressive but compared to Mast, barely noticeable. Heavy sweating of course, libido was good the whole run. In hindsight admit my emotions were much more dramatic than normal but not in a bad way, I was actually more sympathetic.
I am kind of leaning towards option#2, reason is when I project out to the next cycle if I run the 15 week total runs with PCT puts me into next July for the earliest I could start back up again. If I do the 10 week run I can start back up 1st of june or so. Being on for the summer is pretty good IMO.
Option one is prob my fave.... but with one edit... make it a true EOD... those three day a week things ..eh.. plus with the short esters especially in the sust you are jacking the test levels all over the place ... the long ester in the sust takes 4-5 weeks to completely clear the system.. I ll have to look it up but I know for sure it is longer than 3 weeks because I needed to know for my last sust cycle...
I think you are right and EOD makes more sense to me as well. Thanks Grrl!
AnonYeah you could do that. I'm using SUST right now on a MWF schedule. Been on my full stack for 8wks. I'm doing something a little different tho. Im adding 100mg of Cypionate each injection. I saw Catalyst mention he was doing that and I'm trying it out for myself. Eod is just too much pinning for how long my cycle is going to be. Plus MWF is cake in sticking to my protocol. I'm not saying for you to try this I'm just offering a differnt take. I'm not endorsing this as Im still in the middle of the cycle and can't gauge how my body will react over the length of my cycle (20wks) As of now I have had an amazing libido. Above expectations in terms of results thus far. Only negative has been the last two weeks since coming of the prop kicker I've had a small acne breakout on my chest and the occasional white head on my shoulders. My face and back are smooth and clear.
I ve done seventeen weeks of pinning EOD.. not very friendly to the delts but very doable. What is the reasoning behind the addition of cyp.. Is it the need for the mid range ester. I suppose that makes the sust more stable. I also add prop to my sust runs due to the low dose of the prop in the sust.. It gives it a nice boost. I would imagine the acne is from the shift in test levels and will even it self out fairly quickly.
AnonShow off;)
Lol I've been on Ed pins since the ebc. Might have to switch from 22s to 25s tho. Lol
nahh.. I'm just very fond of my short esters ..
That is interesting Carlos, thanks for sharing. You know since I started AAS I get acne on my chest, I never in my life had any there before,lol. Some of them little bastards are annoying!
you will have all kinds of problems with cycle one the way it is laid out. no dickie for 4-5 weeks like that
he didn't say anything about wanting his dick to work .. he wants to be big like me
Ha! No, I most definitely want "Dickie"to work!
AnonAgree. I always use Prop EOD at 150mg for the first 6 wks of my SUST cycles. I probably only need it for 4wks but I go six just cuz I know I'm covered.
Damn brother can you put these in cycle format, to much for me to read and remember when I'm on the go.
Yes sir. I will.
edit: Is that a little better?
yeah ill have a look when i get some time.
RustyhookerTren is supposedly a rbc booster as well. Last cycle i clipped the eq and sust/mast evenly. Sus was at 450. Added tren a and mast p at 50/50ed til pct. Im still rookie with tren but with low test i was just a sweat box. It makes me introverted though and i dont like that.
True, honestly I didn't get bloods until two weeks into PCT this time. They were the same as they have been on every blood test to date. If the tren did raise my RBC's wouldn't one think that after two weeks cessation of tren they would still read high? I may just be being overly paranoid about EQ.
RustyhookerYes, they should have still been high. Eq at 1000/week....i felt crappy at week 6 and donated blood. Next day i felt like new. Im still curious about bold cyp. Lil faster and hunger boost. I didn't get anxiety on tren a at 50 but others have. Carlos danger laid out a cool cycle in adv foeums. I think its on Sic26 forum. Tren mid cycle to harden and drop fat then let the gear/food keep adding lean mass.
I'm running the bold cyp this winter I'm excited. I have some bold ace on hand i might use to kick but will see. Might just front load it a little the first week ill have an extra 1000mgs left over i can use as a front load over a week or to. God I'm getting so excited thinking about going back on cycle lol.
The times I've ran Tren I ran it higher than test. Last time was almost a TRT doses of Sust, and Tren A about 2x that, with Winny at the end. Definitely shed the fat. Didn't care to much for the Winny just for the way it made me feel. You could run a long ester test, enough to keep your willy working. I think you can get 27 and maybe 28 gauge needles for 3ml rigs also
Yea, I ordered a bunch of 27's recently just in case,lol. My testE last cycle, when I added the tren I lowered to 250 a week versus the tren at 350, but once I switched to prop I just ran them even. Both ways overall I felt great and it seemed every time I hit the gym I could see my muscles growing,lol. I did sweat like horse at the drop of a hat, even thinking about spicy food would immediately get my pores flowing. At night tho I would sweat on occasion but overall it wasn't bad, crazy ass dreams tho.
Yea I slept fine, but I was lethargic as could be and would get these random panic attacks
The first two weeks in the morning I had to talk myself down from going ballistic on the guys a few times but I kept it cool for the most part. Had few quick rages, but nothing real crazy. I think maybe because I was waiting for it and expecting it made the sides less noticeable. For the most part I just felt beast mode all the time. Seeing that was just round one with tren I am fully expecting differences on the next run.