posted Sat, 01/14/2012 - 08:28
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Strong lifts 5x5
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Has anyone got any experiance of stong lifts 5x5 training programme? I've just been reading abit about it and wondering what everyones opinions are of it.
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Thanks for the info guys, me and my buddy have started this workout and are already feeling stronger!! I'm not to sure how long we will be able to sustain the extra weight but we have just got a 50ml each of test to start in 3 weeks.
Hmm there are some different things being said about the 5x5. It is another version of Vince Girondas German Volume Training. Let me say this. If done correctly this is far from a beginners routine. It is brutal to say the least. 5 sets of a movement with a weight that you can only get 5 reps with and your rest period is no longer than 1 minute. I have done the 10x10, 8x8 and 5x5 volume training and it is. Itching short of excruciating. Don't think about it give it a go and see for yourself. I am not sure where muffintop got it from that it's a beginners routine. Beginners routines have changed alot then since I started lifting 23 years ago.
Stronglifts isn't really in the GVT / Gironda mold (in terms of rest periods...it's less brutual than that), that said its still a very worthwhile programme and virtually everyone I've seen lift a weight (other than Bertil Fox, Yates and a few very strong Pro RL players I've seen lift) will benefit from it.
I think all these 5x5 and 8x8 routines and so on are all variations of volume training. They just name it different and have a slight twist to it and call it the latest and greatest thing. Have seen most of them come and go and come again.
My chest always lagged till I started a 5,4,3,2,1 routine putting on as heavy as I could go for five then adding 2.5 lbs on each side every set for bench. Then did 3 sets of ten on incline and flat db flys. Made my chest blow up. Still use it to this day with a couple more exercises thrown in.
It's a beginners program that's pretty much the same thing as starting strength. It's a decent program for getting your starting weights up to something respectable very rapidly. If you're looking into running that program, you probably shouldn't be considering gear for quite some time.
Not sure I'd agree with the beginners programme tag at all...some VERY well developed stars of yesteryear (Reg Park being one) trained that way. 5 X 5 can take you a (very) long way if you lift enough weight on it. It's certantly a much better programme than anything that present BBing stars are on (for the average guy with or without AAS).
This isn't Reg Park's or even Madcow's for that matter. This thread was about SL. The program is marketed as a beginners program and it is done so for a reason. Linear progression is truly an amazing thing and it's something that should be taken advantage of, but there's a limit to how far it can take you. Periodization becomes essential for a lifter once he plateaus and SL, much like starting strength, does not offer any form of that.
Stronglifts 5 X 5 (as opposed to another 5 X 5) is considered a beginners program because you are supposed to up the weight for each lift every session. When you can't make progress you're supposed to move on to Madcow, Wendler, or another similar strength focused intermediate routine. It's supposed to make you strong which in turn will improve your physique. I 100% agree that it's better for regular guys (with a job and such) than the ridiculous routines in BB magazines.
I was just reading about it and wondered what peoples thoughts are, as I train 5 days a week. As for gear ive already done it a few times over the last few years.
It's a good program for becoming stronger in the basic barbell lifts. I added almost 100 pounds to my squat with this program in just a few months. You will probably get your best results ever when you switch back to hypertrophy training since you will be handling heavier weights. You can also gain weight on Stronglifts if you're taking in enough calories (they recommend a gallon of milk per day).