posted Sun, 10/06/2013 - 16:38
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I am new to this and I am obese. I've been an athlete my whole life and I'm now working out hard. I have been thinking of cycling T3 to lean down with diet and exercise. Then moving into HGH or another substance to bulk up slightly. Not looking to go overboard with my size. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks
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I would like to no if your actually Obese or if your just over weight, there is a huge difference. If your just over weight, other then getting a physical I would change every thing I said. I would do then a simple 12 week cycle, stack Test E @ 400-600mg per week, I would use Winny tabs 50mg per day for the First 4 weeks and Anavar 50mg per day for the last 6 weeks. You can add HGH also but its on the expensive side. The do daily cardio a 3 day Split. <--google if you don't no what that is. Happy lifting. P.S. Always use PCT and Estrogen blockers while using test.
What these guys fail to realize is how Hard physically it is to exercise when your obese or just extremely over weight. Your body weight can be a huge burden on your Muscles. I would First have a complete physical done making sure that your cholesterol is not crazy high. Also making sure your heart is Generally in good health, no concerns by your Dr. A heart healthy diet and Cardio Getting a Gym membership is a must. Running will prob. not be an option since your knees won't handle the stress. So a Stationary bike, swimming, and any other cardio machines. As far as AAS goes I would use EQ 400-600 mg per week if the physical checks out Okay. this will help your muscles overcome your body weight. Or as rsp2000 mentioned a low does of Test E or Test C at like 400mg per week would help your Muscles over come the body weight issue, it will help your physical recovery after the workouts, and Give you a mental edge that could help your stick with the diet. Good luck brother, Be Healthy!!
imgrownif you want extreme fat loss I would recommend the following.
HGH
HGH frag
DNP
WHEY ISOLATE
and some sort of appetite suppressant... you could throw in some T3 but its not necessary.
its best to just focus on weight loss if over weight. dont worry about muscle your going to like how you look skinny. just try to eat less.
when done cutting you start working out again... stay on HGH (eod) and WHEY ISOLATE
Yeah just throw a ton of dangerous chems at the problem and ignore the core issue of diet.
Moron
If yout obese focus on cutting right now. its going to take a whileeeee. no need to even think of how your gomna bulk after slimming down
Diet and Hard Cardio
You dont need the rest if Fat Loss is your goal. At a very minimum 300mg of Test but I dont think you even need that.
put down 16 weeks in a calendar and go for 3-5lbs a week and work you ass off! Stick to 2100 cals a day, have a cheat day ONCE every 10 days and do carb cycling. It will all melt off!
But pay your dues with Cardio in various forms and aim to put yourself on strength training split 5x5 is good.
Just had blood work done and everything is right in the middle and normal. I even asked my doctor and he said my thyroid is perfect. I specifically asked because I'm thinking about T3. And because I have been having such a problem burning and gaining weight.
t3 is pretty advanced and I stand behind what doss said below.. hgh would be safer but expensive..
First thing you need to do is run blood work and check hormones.. def get your thyroid checked.. If by any chance you are hypo a doctor will work with you on that.. just stay away from self medicated t3.
What do you feel like your weak points are?? It sounds like you have no problem lifting and cardio so what about your diet? It would be great if you laid out your workout routine and general diet so we could help you more.
No matter if you take t3, clen, DNP or caffeine they won't do half as much as you think they will unless your diet is PERFECT.. just something to think about.
Thanks to all. From my research I was looking at 50-70 mcg daily for 3 week cycles. I could push for 6 weeks with minimal side effects.
I am aware of the damage. My mom had her thyroid removed from Graves' Disease. It fucked her up which is why I am going to be very careful.
I also want to be cognizant of anything that will stimulate appetite. I quit smoking three months ago and gained 20 lbs overnight.
I have been. I'm currently 270 and I would like to maximize my workout and diet to slim down. From my research that seems to be the fastest way to eat through my fat storage. Any other ideas are welcome.
I dieted from over 320 to 190 - No processed food, carbs around workouts only, decent sleep and lots of water!
Simple and easy solution.
I dieted down from 278 to 227 by cleaning up my diet and started ketogenic diet when I was down to 255. The last 28 lbs came off alot quicker but whole process was 7 months to drop 51 lbs.
My plan was to diet down to pre surgery weight b4 starting a cycle again.
Good luck
Eat clean and don't cheat your self, no carbs after 5, cut down calories and carbs in general and do more cardio. Also T3, clen, and DNP work really well as fat burners but make sure you know what your doing. That's what worked for me. I cut down from over 200 to 169 recently and it felt great.
i would much rather see you on hgh rather than t3 at any point in your venture. t3 can cause way more harm than good, entirely too easily, brother. hgh benefits are phenomenal, and you will lose fat on it. there is a scientifically documented relationship between plasma gh and a lipolytic enzyme (HSL), which breaks down triglycerides. this relationship is dose dependent, meaning the higher the gh level, the greater the enzyme response. keep in mind, that doesn't mean inject more to lose more weight. there are some negative side effects with high levels of hgh, though not many, but they include edema. with your current condition, this would create a cascade of things to deal with like BP issues.
food for thought. wish you the best of luck and welcome to eroids, brother.
The best thing to do would be to do a shit ton of constant research.