posted Fri, 02/10/2012 - 04:53
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CLEN or DNP????
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O my god don't you dare take dnp there should be no reason why you can't lose it naturally I don't mean to be so dramatic but I've used dnp plenty of times ...I felt flat I sweated yellow I looked like a crescent moon I stunk ...I hated it and it also put me in the hospital dehydration ...
Nothing like dieting and training ...it has to be a life style because there is no quick easy fix without risk ...
one of 2 things is all i can say to this post
either you completely misused it and didnt use any common sense while taking DNP
or
you are lying about it
anything is dangerous if misused, also dangerous is recycling 'scare stories'
the only part of your post with any kind of sense is the last part about diet and training
DNP is dangerous used properly. There is dick safe about DNP.
I described the symptoms ...so since your a guru on dnp you never had those symptoms? ....and you think i was the one that was lying ...you are encouraging people that dnp is completely OK to use...I have my opinions and you have yours don't be replying to my posts either keep telling people its OK to use...because when the drop dead...its on your conscious
My brother ...you know nothing of dnp/ dnp contains ingredients found in rat poison and explosives which make your body temperature rise... you can go up to a gram with dnp...this happened to me at 600 mg. I drank plenty of water and still was dehydration and needed an IV...now how does that sound like a lie or sound like its misused ...
And guess what...I used it several times after that ...it does the job but comes with risk ...does this make enough sense for you? Or should i use hand gestures and symbols instead?
your full of B/S please stop trying to copy and paste old scare stories from 10 years ago
do you even know how DNP works?
no is the answer quite clearly in your case
if you overdose on DNP an IV drip will do fuck all so again, please dont talk nonesense
there is nothing worse than someone who knows fuck all about something and claims they do.
if you dont think people should use it , fine, thats your opinion, posting utter bollocks and pretending it is a fact is neither helpful or truthful
please move along and maybe post useful things about tsomething that you actually know about or have experience in.
thanks now, you have a good day..
Lol dehydration is not overdosing ...so you don't sweat on dnp what are you .fine...
Lol i never ever said I od'd
How do you use dnp? Powder or crystal?
My doses were 200 200 200 400 400 400 600 600 600 400 400 400 200 200 200 15 days off then back on again
I swear I've used this and i dropped weight like a fiend
So if you mastered this drug post your secrets on it because the sweating and heat for me was intense ...despite drinking water I still was dehydrated.
im on various boards, i have posted on there my experiences with various DNP from various sources.
i am no DNP guru but having used it for several years safely and know several other people who have used it for several years safely i have NEVER heard of anyone who did use it correctly having any hospitalisations.
if you were THAT dehydrated that you needed to go to hospital you dont think you took more than your body could handle? thus overdosing what you can handle?
you say you used it for 15 days then went back on it again 15 days later? and you went up to 600mg per day?
i would say that unless you were around 18 stone, you took too much and certainly did not leave it long enough before doing another cycle
no one should be doing more than 400mg per day of legit DNP unless they plan on just sitting in a pool of sweat and then not losing much due to lack of activity
i stick to my original reply that you either misused it ( which by what you have posted as your cycles is probably true) and that you lied about going to hospital due to the DNP causing dehydration
if you are dehydrated you will have been told top drink more liquids, if you claim it is due to the DNP then again, you did not drink enough liquids ( proving my point that you misused it) however DNP will increase your core body temperature so while you may claim you were dehydrated, it would be the least of your problems as your body temperature would have raised to concerning and dangerous levels which i would guess A & E would be treating as the priority.
using DNP and feeling like shit come hand in hand once you go over 200mg per day, it is nothing new and is listed in any credible log any one on here or anywhere else will have put, you cant hide the sides if you use genuine DNP.
there are some excellent guides to not fuck up while using DNP, anyone looking to use DNP, just infact like using any new chemical, should read up thoroughly first
you wouldnt buy a car without reading up on it, so why would you put chemicals into ytour body without fully understanding what it does, why it does it and what to do to limit any sides?
anyway, im out of here. have a nice afternoon
That's a good explanation ...this was also almost 10 years ago...there weren't really good guidelines on the matter like today...so you did under 200 yes that's manageable ...I still really recommend clen over dnp lets leave it at that
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~BFG
hmm? do you use steroids? chemicals which are used to promote muscular growth?
anything is toxic if misused
losing weight or gain muscle it is the same, people want to use what ever advantage they can to get where they need to be quicker
DNP helps you lose weight quicker if used correctly, just as steroids if used correctly will help increase muscle mass
personally, i dont see any difference in using one to lose weight or another to gain weight
have you used DNP? i ask because the majority of misinformation posted about it and recycled 'stories' concerning its MISuse are by people who have never actually used it or know someone who has used it ina responsible manner.
everyone should have their own opinion but hopefully people base their opinions on more than old wives tales.
AnonClen and T3 stack
ravenfan31clen
Diet and cardio work wonders, depending on bodyfat levels you can drop more then a pound a week on the keto diet.
DNP is extremely dangerous stuff, this shit can kill you.
However, if you treat DNP with high levels of respect and combine a low dose with clean diet and cardio you will get excellent results, better than you get out of any dose of clen, but it should only be a last resort.
Very conservative doses of DNP will result in less sides than a dose of clen that produces the exact same amount of weight loss.
DNP works better BUT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!! There are rules and procedures to follow in order to be succesfull with this powerful chemical. It will f@#K you up if you don't respect DNP. Like other members already stayed, check your diet, add cardio and think in add any of this two (may be ) later.
can some one pm me with where they got gooood clen? plz thx
can some one pm me with where they got gooood clen? plz thx
On general look Clen is safer then DNP.
DNP powder form gets 14days to complete half of a caps. So you may have more side effect by powder form.
But DNP express (salt form) gets 2 days to complete half of a caps. so express form works faster then powder form. Express forms 100 mg gives same result with powder form's 200mg. You must be so careful when you take DNP. because when you take one cap. you may not feel anything. after 5-6 days you will start to feel all effects last takes capsules.
For better results for DNP..
You must have 0 "Zero" carbohydrate along 3 days before to start to use DNP.
When you start to use DNP you must get less carbohydrate. (Attention: you have to get carbohydrate when you are using DNP)
Offered DNP Dosage:
Effects change person to person.
I offer not to get over 800mg of powder form and over 400mg of express form.
Additional Info:
DNP makes anabolic effects after finished to use it.
For any other questions you can PM me.
Thanks.
Anonneither is good... I'd suspect like sgt says below she isn't eating enough food or the right foods.. additionally, if you do the same thing all the time your body adapts amazing well and you will plateau..
sgtstedankoHello! I think that you need to be eating at least 1700 cals per day. Roughly {current weight all in pounds} x 10 = total cals per day to lose weight. Then after; you'll need X 12.5 to maintain.
45% from good lean proteins (Chicken/tuna/salmon/bison steak) 1-2 shakes per day at the most.
40% from good quality carbs {Quinoa, and Buckwheat}
15% from fats {Flax seed oil}
Your muscles & brain rely on carbs for energy; this could be why you feel sluggish. Remember, not all carbs are created equal though. Note - Remember to consume a good portion of those carbs 1st thing in the morning & after hard workouts!
Make sure the following are on your shopping list. Every single Time! If you don't have any of the bad stuff to eat, you can't eat it. Every Sunday, portion & make your meals for the week; at least a few days worth, in advance : )
Snack on almonds, celery & fruit.
Use your non dominant hand to hold your fork when you eat.
Getting your body to start trying to adapt to this will help speed things up immensely: Sprinting for as long as you can then stopping & immediately doing 30-45 seconds of military pushups. Walking for up to 2 minutes then repeating off & on for at least 10 min, 2-3 times per week. IMO, this routine has helped me the most... I live by it.
Take the fat soluble vita's {A, D, E, K with essential fatty acids (flax oil, is my fav)
Take C{250 at a time} & E together
Vita C should be taken 1 hour prior to, and right after exercise
Use the natural form of E, D-alpha tocopherol. Not DL
Do not take chitosan, or other fat blockers w/ fat soluble vita's{A, D, E, & K}
Beta Caratene can & should take the place of Vita A
The B vita {such as b6 and b12} should be taken before exercise
Use the niacinamide form of b3 if you get skin flush, or irritation {Don't use the slow release vers}
Take calcium with vita d. {Do not take with Magnesium}
Take more zinc {not w/copper}
Selenium is very important in helping to regulate metabolism as it supports the conversion of T4 to active T3
Pre workout: (On an empty stomach) {no food, but plenty of clean water. For me pers, {before sprint/run days are water w/Optimum Nutrition Essential Amino Energy, & Korean Red Panax Ginseng mixed in.
Two to Three times per week. Sprint as long as you can. Then Immediately stop drop & do 45 seconds of 1st, Pushups, 2nd, crunches, & at 3rd stop do Mountain Climber Pushups & 4th, Mason twists individually at each stop. Walk for 1-2 min, and repeat for at least, AT LEAST 10 min. Mix, Mixed Grip Pull Ups into your routine. 2 or 4 sets to failure... Have at least one day of moderate pace steady state cardio {Like jogging, swimming, bike, etc, etc, etc} I like to run for a couple miles............
This is an exercise that pretty much works your whole body. Pushup position Row & Squat Thrust:
{Place a pair of dumbells on the floor & assume a pushup position with your hands on the dumbells. 1. Pull the right dumbell up to the side of your chest. 2. Pause, & then lower the dumbell; repeat the movement with your left arm. 3. While holding the dumbells, quickly bring your legs toward your torso. 4. & then jump up. Once you land, squat & kick your legs back into a pushup.
IMHO, for a lady; With proper diet. If you were to do yoga & this w/the morning sprint routine mixed in 3 times per week, you would absoloutely nothing else, except something like the below exercise mixed in as well : )
Forward Lunges:
Form: Feet parallel, hip-distance apart, take one giant step forward. Lower your body slowly, bending both knees, and return to standing. Repeat on the other side. Bend your knees no farther than 90 degrees, front knee directly over your front ankle. Do not rest your back knee on the ground.
If you have a smart phone, get the apps jefit& & *my fitness pal to help track meals, workouts, etc.
Take plenty of rest days. Work smarter, not harder!
Stretching makes a difference in lean mass.
Use free weights & or machines
Breathe properly. Never hold your breathe during any exercise
Use a spotter
Warm up for about 5-10 min before hitting the weights Hard for about 45-60 min
Drink half a cup of white grape fruit juice with your meals (Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner).
Take some sort of thermogenic fat loss support {Green tea extract, hydroxycut etc}. {Or, Add pure cayenne pepper to each meal}.
It's very important to drink lots of water. at least 1.5 gals per day.
Do cardio & Train with weights
Take CLA & ZMA
Lower cortisol levels{get plenty of sleep 9 hours, take vita c, and zinc}
Lower water weight. It's ussually caused by excess sodium {breads, gravy, canned tuna, sauces, etc.
There is absoloutely no better weight loss support than your body properly fueled through vitamins, diet & exercise! Wait for that other shit for down the road, if ever. You really can't replace hard work, and dedication, w/a pill.
Remember, that there is nothing better than strong confident woman; & get to work young lady! Have fun!!! Jeez, I got a workout just writing that up ;)
Feel free to read my post:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/bet...
This looks very familiar.
sgtstedankoIt's my generic, go to post. What works, works. And it works well : )
sgtstedankoMarked for later... I'll hook you up w/something I recently sent to a friend : )
No1DNP will give better results but clen is safer
if you are 5'5 and 180 lbs you should make sure to get your diet in order before you think about clen or dnp. clen only helps a little bit, you will see better results from just sticking to a diet. dnp was banned for giving cataracts to women. although fat may slough off, the potential for cataracts and reproductive damage are not worth losing weight imo. an ec stack might be great for you, because it really helps fight hunger.
http://www.hotnfit(dot)com/ecstack.htm#20mg