posted Sun, 12/16/2018 - 11:57
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+ 1 Tough one - carbs post-workout dilemma
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Hi guys.
I would like to ask what do you think about consuming carbs immediately post-workout?
There are basically 2 ways:
1) probably much more frequent: consuming fast-digesting carbs immediately post-workout
- The main reason and pros of this theory is to replenish the muscle glycogen and start recovery as soon as possible
- cons, right after eating of carbs there follow immediately drop in human growth hormone production
2) first carbs at least 1,5 hour+ postworkout together with first meal
- pros and cons are opposite
There are many articles even supported by studies, but it's very hard to find final answer maybe because as usual everyone is different so i'm more interested in yours experiences.
Which way do you prefer and why? And if you tried them both, which one give you better results? thanks! 
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basskiller89Hey brother!!
I have personally tried all ways to use and abuse carbs all times of the day lol... I think if you are serious about growing the first makes more sense because you will stop the coritosl release earlier and begin protein synthesis faster. I wouldn't worry about the drop in HGH after consuming carbs because it is an insignificant amount of HGH in comparison to total HGH release daily. Most studies I have read along with bloods show that roughly 90% of HGH comes from the pulse while you are sleeping
I carb up immediately after a workout, and if I start to feel catabolic during a workout I hit some carbs. It works for me!
Eat your high glycemic carbs immediately post workout when your body is sponge for carbs/nutrients/protein. Here is an excerpt from one of my posts:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-gain/carbs-n...
You also need to stop the catabolic cascade that occurs after training and consuming carbs immediately post-wo does that.
Bottom line eat your carbs whether bulking or cutting right after your workout to take advantage of the growth window you have at time and to also put your body back into an anabolic state and not catabolic. Kind of wasting a workout otherwise.
Just wanted to mention that you Makwa, are The Man!
Posting excepts from your own previous post. So succinctly put on every level. " Catabolic cascade "....
" growth window ". Fantastic work mate. You are a true asset to the community.
jayiskYou need something in your system as soon as you finish working out. and then a meal in a hr or so.
after you work out is the best time to take in carbs cause you body will just eat it up. if you are cutting or bulking.
This is if you actually trained and just didnt do biceps for an hour and take selfies for 30 minutes.
i take 90 grams of protein powder and 60 grams of dextrose powder. intra-workout i drink 2 32 oz bottles of Gatorade/powerade and add electrolyte tabs to them.
when i get home i eat a meal that is a minimum of 1000 cals up to 2000 cals with at least a liter of water.
90 grams pro shake - Beast! Lol Mind you I'm not too far behind you as I often do 75g with about 40 carbs. Don't get me wrong man I love my shakes too after training, but do you buy into any of this 'Scientific research' that anything over 30g in a sitting doesn't actually get digested/used by the body?
jayiskif 30 grams of protein a sitting was true.., no one would get in enough protein for the day.
If you weighted 200 lbs you would need ten meals just to get 300 grams of protein. that would be 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. so much for the 30 gram a meal research from decades ago.
Very Good point - never thought of it like that. And if it were true the Brian shaw's of this world wouldn't be banging down 80g ones in his vids either would he, on top of his 500g beef mince bolognaise lunch's Lol
jayiskstrongman Derek Poundstone has to say about his diet and protein intake sounds like just a little more then 30 grams of protein per meal..,dude was ripped at 330 lbs., and no IFBB bloated gut guys while they still had abs. then they exhale and look prego.
Hey Derek what does a guy your size training for pure strength and mass eat in the run of a day?
I eat 7 – 8 meals per day and try to get approximately 500 grams of protein, 400 – 500 grams of carbs, and approximately 100 grams of fat just as a starting point and depending on what competition I’m training for and what my goals are, for example.. Am I trying to stay lean and keep my speed and recovery up or do I just want to focus on putting a ton of weight and get as powerful as possible? From this base I go from there.
Generally while at work I eat three meals, I’m sure to get my protein intake by making chicken puree shakes. The chicken puree starts out as frozen chicken breasts. I boil 2 lbs of the chicken breast in water before work (usually the night before) for about 30 minutes. I then cool the chicken and place the four or five breasts (2lbs) into a high-powered blender filled to the 35 – 40 oz line with water. I blend the chicken on high until it becomes a medium consistency fluid that is drinkable (about a minute). Once done, the 2 lbs of chicken and water make about 40 oz of drinkable puree. I drink 20 oz for two meals at work.
Get your slug of protein and carbs before leaving the gym and once you get home have a whole food meal. Best plan.
Christ if I didn't consume a tonne of fast acting carbs post workout I'd be dying on the floor lol Tonnes of carbs and isolate is the order of the day personally. The last thing I'd be worrying about during that very important nutritional time frame is if its affecting minimal growth hormone levels or not - Just pin it artificially if its something that interests you plus it works much better in conjunction with gear etc...
The benefit it has far outweighs any impacts it may have on GH.
I completely forgot about the massive insulin spike they create post workout and all the nutrient shuttling it does, duh Lol - That's why you are tha dawg my man!
Offseason doesn’t matter, from my experience whether you eat right after or an hour later makes no difference. If you have super quick metabolism and need to eat 10 meals to grow the size, it would make sense to eat after after the workout simply to squeeze that food in.
When I’m getting ready for a show, I prefer not eat right after the workout, maybe after an hour or so.
Fat seems to be going a bit faster this way but off-season would not care
jayisk"1) probably much more frequent: consuming fast-digesting carbs immediately post-workout"
so they dont go hypo from slin.
I prefer and enjoy my Postworkout carbs within 30mins of my training, I use exogenous hormones so I'm not as concerned with raising them naturally
What does exogenous mean? I'm challenged..
Challenged ?... Or Special?
Outside the body, endogenous means inside the body
Not natural. Coming from outside the body.
It means you're really nice, "The man was exogenous when he tipped the waiter 35%"