need some advice guys...nutrition/shakes/supps questions
what do you guys use ?
so my plan is to try and get all my protein from food but this can't allways be the case and if your rushing or having a busy day with work,kids ect how do you role with your protein shakes by this i meen what type..fast acting,slow acting or a mix of both ?
so i got myself 6.5 kg of what was ment to be a mix of casein,whey,isolate ect a all around shake for fast acting proteins and slow release proteins but it turns out i messed up and ended up with 4kg fast acting whey protein and 2.5 mixed blend protein would not of been so bad if i had 4kg mixed blend and 2kg whey but it seems like i have 4kg of protein which is not much use on its own.so my question is should i get a slow acting protein and mix the two together ? to make my own shake i read a article on bodybuilding.com that said not to do this as the casein would slow the release of whey turning it into a slow acting protein...but then my thinking is thats realy what i want a protein that feeds me with 3-4 hours of aminos and not 40 mins of aminos.i am not realy a fan of pre workout shakes i prefer a good meal before a workout or a good breakfast..and it would seem the only time i can use a fast acting protein is after a workout any ideas ? should i mix and if so whats the best slow release proteins and if not is there any reson not to make my own mix ?
now going off the main topic
Has anyone got any tips on supplements to use on cycle on in genral so heres what i use it looks like..
Alpha lipoic acid tablets for liver and kidney support(many studys to back this up from usa mostly)
milk thistle liver support (no real studys on this it seems more taboo than solid science)but can't hurt to use
vitamin c 1000 mg daily
Cod liver oil 2000mg-3000mg daily
l glutamine
creatine(not on cycle only off cycle)
flaxseed powder (add to shakes)
apple cider vinegar(lowers bp/genral health benifits)
glucosamine and chorodontin think thats the apelling lol(joint health due to being post op cartilage surgery and genral joint safeness)
any thing you can add to this post above would be greats
cheers 
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Milk thistle is garbage dude. The only thing that will actually help prevent cholestasis of the liver from use of anabolics is UDCA or TUDCA. Supplements arent gonna affect your cycle really.
Dont worry so much about what protein powder to buy, spend the money on real food where you get more bang for your buck anyways. Cottage cheese is mainly casein so theres your slow acting protein. Also the whole casein will turn whey into a slow acting protein thing is a myth. Thats ridiculous, you cant change the properties of a protein molecule simply by taking it with a different protein molecule. You may be a little to focused on the details here which happens to me a lot. I get to caught up in what supps are the best but really what you should focus the most on is getting your diet and training straight, The gains will come.
I have become a big fan of the Nutrex muscle infusion black protein powder in chocolate. 25g of protein per serving and its a mix of fast and slow release proteins. it also mixes real easy with6 oz water or 8 oz 2% milk for an extra calorie boost in bulking phase. $28 dollars at vitamin shoppe and like 25 servings per 2lb container
I use carnivor beef protein by MuscleMeds.It has 23 grams of protein and 2.5 grams of creatine per scoop.I use carnivor liquid shot after my workouts.It has 50 grams of protein.I also use Met-Rx.
I will have a look into that bro...am trying to find a good slow release protein but all the ones i am finding tye reviews all say it don't mix or its all froffy for 20 mins.need to find a good source.
The best place I have found so far is http://www.allstarhealth.com/ They have the best prices I have found.I'm always looking though.
Checked that link bro
Just checked my source i normaly get from there selling 80% casein 20% whey so its got all the slow release protein i need at 27 grams of protein per 30 gram scoop.if i mix with my isolate and whey i will have the shake am looking for goodstuff...its 2.5kg for 32 quid cheap as chips.
What supps use for on cycle ? Or for pct
Sorry bud,I didn't realize you were from the U.K. I guess I should have taken a closer look at your avatar.lol I don't use pct,I cruise.I'm a little bit older than you.I do use aromasin.I use caber when I'm on a 19 nor.I don't use any supps except for my protein powders.And I do use osteo bi-flex for my joints.
Haha yea avi gives it away am due a new one son.To be onest all i used before my injury was shakes but since injury i am just hitting it with every supplement i can find or tweaking my diet.yea going to be using aromasin tail end of my cycle and into pct.
Osteo bi flex gonna look this stuff up now see what the score is with it.
your list looks like mine. I have added Soy Protein Isolate. ( see link at bottom)
Ive started to add this to all of my yogurt and milk stuff that I drink. I have the protein powder stuff.
(Gaspari and True Mass - BSN ). I eat that stuff in shakes.. but not as a mix in , in meals.
I also use Dymatize -liquid aminos ( 23000 ) I buy the 32 oz stuff. Each serving is 22 grams of
protein. The only flavor worth getting is the Berry.. the others are pretty weird. The entire container
is 415 Grams of protein.. pretty cheap for what you get.
https://www.bulkfoods.com/whole-foods.asp?wholesale=4743
Is soy protein not fast release protein ? I have been looking into casein to mix with my whey so i have my own blend of slow release plus fast release...reviews all say it gets stuck in shaker or don't mix
going to check that link out now bro is this site american based...stupid question lol i normaly use uk based sites just for safeness and cheaper delivery.
yes. is us based.. but its a normal product.. you should be able to find it over there..
but bulk foods.. does ship world wide..you should be able to find it easy..
I REALLY like it..
I just bought dymatize protein shake its pretty great but the taste, like you said is a little odd :/ other than that its great
I used the liquid protein.. Its like syrup-ish thing.. its not a powder.(Dymatize 23000 is a liquid )
Powders - Protein - or - Soy Isolate..both are different.
Protein Powder - I use for shakes. (night time or a meal replacement )
Soy ISO...I use daily now.. its like an xrta -60-120 grams of straight protein in my diet.
not sure on the speed.. but they work..
Cheers mate i will have a look into that now.