posted Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:26
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GW501516 and T3
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I am doing extensive research before I do my first cycle and have encountered two substances that I wanted input on from you guys.
My questions are as follows:
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Should these be taken together or one at a time?
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Should these be used pre or post cycle?
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Any sides or drug interactions that I should be aware of prior to using?
P.S. My bio is filled out to give you an idea of my stats if that is needed before answering my questions.
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Just my .02. Keep researching, then do more. I would never mess with my thyroid without proper knowledge. You got good advice down the page. I suggest you listen to these guys. I have seen what thyroid problems will do to somebody. My daughter @16 had thyroid cancer and had surgery to remove around 90% of the gland. Her hormones are jacked up to this day @22. She will be on meds for life. All I'm saying is don't go by bro science with this. "Good to go" " worked for me" BS. Research and listen to knowledge on here. Sorry for the rant touchy subject. Good luck.
Damn! I need to use the reply button and not post a new comment.
T3 is scary man. I wouldn't take anything that's going to throw my thyroid out of whack but that's just me. There are safer compounds to give similar results but nothing can substitute the killer "Tread-M" method! "Get to work in the kitchen"! Best cutting cycle is the proper diet!
AnonAGREED! I think people are taking T3 farrrr too lightly, I personally will NEVER take that shit... I don't think people realize how important - and FRAGILE - our thyroids really are!
The thyroid gland controls how quickly the body uses energy ( metabolism ) and the rate of protein synthesis on many levels
The thyroid controls how sensitive your body is to other hormones!!!
The thyroid plays a major role in calcium homeostasis in the body through the production of calcitonin - do you have any idea how FUCKED we would be if calcium was left unregulated??
If you fuck up your thyroid you may have to be on meds until the day you die just to be "normal", and even on meds chances are you will still have issues - NOT WORTH IT IN MY BOOK BROS! I actually know a guy, 23, that got a tumor on his thyroid not too long ago and had to have a large portion of the gland removed... Now i'm not going to blame solely T3 here because he ran a shit ton of pro hormones as well ( against my advice ) but he sure did love is T3.... That's reasonable suspicion and more than enough to keep me away from it.
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tread-mIf you are just researching thats great brothe, but if reseaching first cycle just stop when the research leaves test only first. Thats it, test. Learn your compounds one at a time and succeed. Put 100 times the research into diet that you put into gear and you "MIGHT" be a success story. The kitchen is where real builders get it done, that is the work.
Yes I am still in research mode. I won't rush into this at all! I want to be the older bull who tells the younger bull "Lets just walk down there and fuck em all!"
I completely agree with you on the diet aspect! As you might have read in my bio, I am on the Paleo-diet and am having great results! I have also achieved in my many years of training, great numbers and strides in performance. I am not trying to suddenly get huge coming off the couch. I have put at least 5 years into this before even considering cycles. As far as my proposed cycle goes, I can live without the winstrol. I was intrigued with its effects when combined with test as a stack. I believe that the rest of what I have proposed is accurate though. Right? I am getting conflicting info on Anastazole and HCG? What is your take on this? Thanks for all the wisdom. I have learned years worth of stuff in 2 months!
Havent started this yet, but is propsed:
Weeks 1-10 Test E 500mg per week 250mg x 2
Weeks 1-12 Winstrol 50mg every day
Weeks 1-12. .5 mg of Anastrozole every other day
Weeks 1-12 Liver Support pills twice daily
weeks 4-12 500 iu of HCG per week (250mg same days as test E)
PCT
weeks 13-14 40mg Tamoxifen per day
weeks 15-16 20mg Tamoxifen per day
Use nothing but the test,put the winny away for a while and dont use hcg or anastrozole eod either,get used to one compound at once if anything goes wrong on this cycle which compound would you blame ?????? answer is you wouldnt have a clue,learn to "feel" and get used to each compound seperatly,stacking is for intermediate and advanced users that have compound experience.
Dont say ohh fuck it and run this cycles anyway then come back in 12 weeks asking how to fix problems,start the correct way work your way up through compounds slowly,then come back and thank us because we were right all along.
FIRST CYCLE TEST ONLY PERIOD.
First and foremost I wish to thank all of you who have given your input. I put my cycle together after reading this thread:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
I am now getting conflicting info regarding the anastrazole and HCG. I don't mind only using these if and when I need them, however, how do you know if you need the HCG? I interpreted this as a preventative maintenance. What do your balls do that indicated the need for HCG? I am confident that I will know if and when I need the anastrazole. My big question now is the HCG. I love my little dudes and want to take care of them.
Winny for 12 weeks???;??
That was a typo. I meant Weeks 8-12 50mg Winny every day. However, I am going to now do a Test E only cycle. Still in research mode. Thanks
What's your cycle look like??