Winter bulking cycle
First stats; I'll be 33 when I do this, 95kg (now the water retention has gone), 6'1". Bf about 13% currently.
This will be my 5th cycle the last being test prop kicker with test e @ 600 equipoise @ 600 ew and var @ 75 ed added in the last 6 weeks. Total cycle length was 20 weeks. Used hcg twice a week and aromasin @ 10 mg eod. Currently on the standard pct of nolva and clomid almond with 5mg of aromasin eod.
Other compounds used are deca, dbol.
Had some really nice, dry gains form my last cycle. Now I'm looking ahead to the end of February to a bulking cycle.
It's going to be all about packing on muscle. I'm thinking of a simple test e @ 800 ew for 14 weeks with a prop kicker. I've got most compounds ready to go so I'm looking for some good ideas for somebody with my stats and experience. Btw I don't particularly like orals.
Also would like an idea of nutrition for a bulking cycle to maximise the gains from the compounds.
Between now and then I'm going to really dial in my diet and training to prep hopefully to reduce my bf below 12%.
Thank you in advance.
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zewiI feel let out so im going to trow a cycle up there. :)--I am not a Deca fan--unless bulk is my goal. So here is mine.. I don't run bulks anymore like this anymore EQ only for me :)..
weeks 1-6 Tbol @ 50mg a day
Weeks 1-14 Test E @ 750mg a week
Weeks 1-12 NPP @ 450 a week(if you cant do 400 do 300)
weeks 14-19 Test p @ 150mg EOD
Aromasin 12.5mg
Cabergoline .5mg
Nice one. Why npp instead of deca though? Could you use deca with an npp kicker?
zewiNPP is fast in and fast out, recovery is going to be a lot easier, it will give the same gains Deca will but a lot faster
What about this;
weeks 1-4 test p @ 150 eod
Weeks 1-14 test e @ 600 ew
Weeks 1-4 npp @ 75 -100 eod
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 450 ew
Weeks 15-17 test p @ 100 eod
Weeks 13-16.5 npp @ 75 eod
zewithat could work.. but i would change the Deca to 10 since your going to end with NPP..
cdaddy7You want me to construct you a diet bro?....Ok bro it took me a moment but I got one specifically designed for your winter bulk cycle for a 220lb man...These diets are tough to do, but I love it and everytime I do one it helps me to get better at it.....Hope you like it too my man....
Meal 1
12 egg whites
3 whole egss
1 cup oats
1 banana
1 glass 1% milk
Omega 3 300mg
OR
GS9902's "kitchen sink wake up shake" = 1184 calories
2 scoops whey
2 egg
2 cup oats
1 cup plain greek yogurt
2tbs flax seed cold milled
1 banana
1tbs peanut butter
1 cup mixed berries
Meal 2
6oz chicken breast
2 cups whole wheat pasta
Large green salad
1 tbsp of Italian dressing for flavor
Preworkout
2 scoops whey protein
1 cup oats or bran
1 cup of 1% milk
Post workout
Two 8 oz. chicken breast
1.5 cup brown ric
Meal 4
8oz salmon steak or top sirloin
2 cups whole wheat pasta
2 tsp olive oil
1 cup green beans
Meal 5
1 cup cottage cheese
1 tbsp Natural Peanut butter
1/2 cup all oats or bran
1/2 cup blueberries or blackberries (blues are great for energy too)
Meal 6
2 scoops of casein protein for the night
1 cup 1% milk
Omega 3 300
For more food options and research here's a link
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/nurition...
Im definately going to steal this. 6'5 223 right now about starting a Winter bulking cycle of my own. Listen to the man!hah
+1 bro,
great layout
I'll be all over this mate. Cheers
cdaddy7I figured u would approve homie...and It's got GS special brew too LOL
Primo would be a great addition in this stack... you have the run length dialled in and it would leave you dry,hard,and polished looking..run primo at 800mg and drop the test back to 600mg ...PERFECT CYCLE.
This is sensible mans AAS... ask bodybuilder.
DO NOT..do a prop taper no matter what anybody says it will wreck/ruin the primo quality finish.
Just to confirm, was the primo run 14 weeks?
Yes bro... and run the test 2wks longer... then hit PCT as normal,reason i didnt touch on any 19s is that your post mentioned you didnt want it,youve already tried EQ so primo was the deciding factor for dry hard gains..nothing like it in the world bro i get better results with primo than even a trenA/Drost stack..its just so fucking expensive running a full 10ml bottle every week for 20wks in my case.
Its really tempting. Just getting prices at the moment adds at least £500 to a cycle though!
Hey buddy. That's just about the only compound I don't have due to the cost. Is it worth the expense? I worry that my body fat % might be too high to really see the gain. What do you think?
You have time to pre/prep starting tommorow... i say hit it hard now if you are in the 10/11% region that is perfect!... Start lean - stay lean on this run bro its perfect for you.
Thanks vik. I'll sell somthing and make it work;)
Get that body fat down first and youll be gald you did so
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Bulking in February. Guesding end goal is dry?
Yes mate. I bloat up on cycle even with aromasin at 10mg eod. If I went test heavy I would try 5mg ed or failing that 10mg ed. pct dries me right out:)
Aromasin is an every day ai. Could be the problem? Vike just posted a primo run for you
Cheers buddy. I didn't know that. Nice one
1-4 prop 150 eod
1-12 test e/cyp 750
9-15 mast 100eod
9-15 var 80/Ed
12-15 prop taper 150....150.....100. Pct two days after last prop/mast/var
Aromasin 12.5 daily when estro shows thru to pct
Prop for last 3 Weeks will dry ya so finishers leave you hard
I like this too! Only thing is I have 20ml of mast e. never run the compound before. What about like you said but with mast e weeks 2-12 @ 400 ew?
Too short and too low of a dose of mast e. I'd get some more and run that over primo anyday. Cheaper and good results.
Sweet. Whats better dose and time as finisher?
Im on third week of mast e right now. Enanthates take a bit to kick in....will be able to give results at end of ebc. Last summer the mast prop shredded me and hardened quickly. I chose the mast e because test/eq is a long run. Currently 300/wk split. Might look for yours as mast e Weeks 7-13 since enanthaye lives two Weeks like test e woyld it'll still give results.
Nice one