What should my father run for his cycle?
My father is 49 and weighs 180 and is about 5' 9" he has already taken a cycle of test e and just finished up with nolva 2 weeks ago. he ran the cycle for 12 weeks and saw very little results becides hunger was increased. he had a good diet, but his energy was still sluggish at times, and sex drive was not to well, said sometimes it would be normal and otheres would be really shity. i asked someone on here and they told me to have him increase from 500 to 700 on test e per week, and that didnt do much he said.im thinking he needs to add something else to his cycle becides the test e and anastrozyle. not sure what advice to give him on what to take with the test, but he just wants energy and some muscle gain but cut up, doesnt want to get big. also his sex drive was up and down idk why cause mine was great for my first test E cycle and we took it at the same time. thanks
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did he get bloodwork to make sure that the test was legit? 700mg of test is going to work for almost any beginner to intermediate. bloodwork doesnt lie and if hes taking 700mg a week, bloodwork is necessary at least once in the middle of the cycle. everyone can guess all they want, and if the test didnt work, then the LAST thing you need to do is ad another compound before your 100% aware of what the real problem is. do not listen to anybody here that is giving you advice on adding another compound, nor can i actually believe anyone is telling you that.
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Sounds like he did not have his AI dose dialed in. Those are all signs of high or low estrogen.
Maybe He should try proviron or masteron on his next cycle. Either way the main focus is he needs to get his AI dose right
your assuming estro is the problem. why would you recommend another compound for a second cycle? seems to me that if the all test cycle didnt go as planned, then adding another compound is DEFINITLY not the answer. figuring out what the problem is, should be first, right? not trying to be a dick, but telling a newbie to try something else on a 2nd cycle, when he has no idea why his first cycle went bad, is the worst advice you could possibly give.
Well I was not planning on recommending another compound but it sounds like an estrogen issue.
He mentioned joint problems and irritability all signs of low estrogen. That is why I thought proviron could POSSIBLY be a better option for this individual person.
Many people use proviron in place of an AI because not everyone tolerates AI's well. They are very powerful drugs. Not everyone is extremely estrogen sensitive. For many people proviron is enough to keep estrogen in control without the need for an AI.
The reason why I mentioned masteron as an alternative as well is because proviron has a possibility to increase BP, and masteron can be used instead. Masteron also has estrogen lowering abilities.
Anyways I agree he needs to get his test only cycle under control before adding anything, but for this individual person proviron might be an answer. Sometimes the typical 500mg test and 0.25mg e3d arimidex doesn't work for some people. That cycle is just a guideline most people respond well to it. For some people they need to tweak it to make it perfect. What works for one person may not work for another.
good explanation. i see your reasoning behind that. i just wanted to make sure he knows bloodwork is the bible to cycling.
Yeah he had a problem getting it dialed in as we'll as I did too! Thanks ill try and research the best way to dial that in. He was taking the oral liquid and he was constantly getting sore or feeling achy and fever like symptoms
What dose was he using, how often was he taking it and did he get bloods taken? Tackling this estrogen issue is the most important thing right now because each cycle will require a certain amount of estrogen control.
Beginning cycles is all about learning how to set things up just right to your individual chemistry.
angusSounds like all the test that he has in his body is spoken for and that there is very little free test or weakly bound test. He would need to add Masteron to that mix to increase free test. That will also keep him hard and dry. You should also have your father get his bloodwork done to see what percentage of free an weakly bound test he has during cycle. If he had that done he also wouldn't be wondering about the quality of his gear. Take a look here for instructions on how to do that
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/labwork
Also is he on TRT? does his dr prescribe him testosterone?
Ok thanks ill check that out and no, his doctor said his test was too high already to prescribe any
Did he PCT with only two weeks of nolva??? Without clomid?
Something isnt right here. Maybe his diet wasn't as good as you thought or maybe he doesnt train right. Polishmob hit it on the nose he definetely should of got bloods done because that would took the guessing right out the window. Theres tons of variables bro.
That's true he just kept saying its obvious its not working, my diet was worse than his and my cycle worked great, so should he just try again with a different source and/or add something to his cycle?
Sounds like he needs to learn to eat right and train hard before he jumps on another cycle. I would have him do the same cycle again maybe with a prop kicker and at the end if he learns how to eat. Food is the main thing bro, its not the gear. You got it from a top source and i can attest to that gear that is 100 percent real.
My mother is a vegetarian, he eats healthy, he still eats chicken, my mother always cook so he doesn't go out to eat ever, and he took vitamins and protein the entire time, and he was working out before that. Me in the other hand was still going to fast food sometimes and I still felt it and saw allot of results. I thought it was maybe his age or something but I'll tell him to try it again and for his pct he still has most of it, said he had some and quit cause he still thinks that he was taking nothing for his test, he still feels the same even after his cycle. So idk what to do but say try again and get blood work both times
The first thing he should have done was get blood work done. Also if he was running Test E @ 700 a week he should have noticed something.Are you sure you got a good source ?
He took blood work before he got on test e, not sure the results but he said it was already high for his age. He didn't take it half way through because he was frustrated I guess. Also his source was top 10 and I got mine from someone else, bigd wasn't happy with me asking him why his gear didnt seem legit and called me a liar. He is #2 on top 10 now so I think his gear was good but didnt try it myself.
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angusThat source is an asshole but he puts out a damn quality product, so I highly doubt it was bunk gear. Why doesn't your dad post up?
He's not good with computers at all lol. I made him a page but he has a hard time knowing how to use it so its pointless.
No naming sources in the open forum bro. Better edit that out.
How it won't let me???