posted Sat, 01/27/2018 - 23:05
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What is this new fad of Deca only?
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I keep seeing ppl doing deca only cycles and more and more ppl are stemming off that and running an entire stack without test. Ex. Deca,dbol,var. and tren a, npp, mast are two of the latest I've seen on other forums/groups (EA fans). I know this has been done many years ago since ai's were not as common as they are today but people seem to fear test or just like having zero sex drive? Confused lol
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I haven't heard much talk of this myself, however it brings to mind something I have been reading and hearing a lot of that i find troubling is the mixing of 2 19-nors in a cycle. It seems like there are a ton of guys doing it now. Especially Deca/Tren E but some npp/ Tren ace. There are even several blends out there now, which tells me the number of people doing this must have increased greatly because your not going to see several different offerings for something if theres not hi demand for it. I think this is INSANE! Two 19-Nors in one cycle is such a bad idea on so many levels....I guess like a lot of things we are seeing done lately.
Why?
An individual 19nor is a 19nor. You seem to be confusing ester mixes I think... with compounds.
But lets say tren+deca, either long or short, together... or a tren kicker to a long deca cycle and tren taper... or reverse... whatever, just examples...
Why is mixing 2 nor's a bad idea on many levels? What are these levels and what is bad about them?
RustyhookerBesides 90% of the folks in forums not having the skill to even ponder it?
Or common sense of pick a route? The bs broscience of cut bulk has taken huge leaps. But why use foods to dictate? Tren makes everything better. Rme...lol
This is the smartest thing written on this board of 2018!!
RustyhookerFew years back, fairly adv cycles got posted daily but the folks were already solidly on track. Anymore i just wonder if posting real answers is helpful. Or if someone copy n pastes...let em find out the hard way
Yeah i hear that.
Im just curious to see if these guys rocking around talking all this authoratstive stuff have any iota at all of what they are on about. Curious about the latest hype opinions, ya know.
So much BS out there... on many levels lol
The interweb is like a mad petri dish for nutty ideas
RustyhookerFully agree. Quite a bit of overkill and yolo.
I know you meant that as a joke,but the partitioning effect of Tren is special.I for one don’t have to worry about this because I never use deca.
RustyhookerPartitioning is special. Its the other effects that can get worrisome like heart wall thickening etc.
yes sir
or dementia related stuff
RustyhookerSeriously!!! Do not need that at all. I forget enough crap as it is. Lol!
The sad thing is the majority of these people are young kids 18-25 and have no knowledge whatsoever and I tried arguing my point that they need test but it falls in def ears. It's ppl like this that will be giving power to those that put the stereotypes on steroid use and give power to the claim that steroids "kill" because when they die from the dnp burning them up they will do a toxicology and end on steroids was the cause.
The media is actually really harsh on “that” compound and they seem legitimately concerned with raising awareness of it. They might mention steroids in passing because the two usually go hand in hand.
Deca only is no bueno, it simply does not work. It doesnt create enough estrogen, prolactin or dht to allow you to remain... a human. It takes about 5 weeks to fully crash but when you do, holy sh!t.... bad news story.
If you maintain the needed amount of estro and dht via whatever means (prolactin follows estro), then deca becones a whole new experience. No need for ai's or da's whatsoever. Freedom and gains on tap.
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Deca only ....LOL
Silly children. This is what happens after you eat numerous Tide Pods
RustyhookerHahahaha
basskiller89I've heard of, and condone test only cycles
I can't say a deca only cycle is a good idea
X2 May work for some, but I still think you need a test base when you run anything else
I know an old timer swares by Deca/dbol only cycles.Never touches test and claims to never have problems and n the bed.I get Deca dick if I even look at it,so not for me but my friend loves it!
I read somwhere that dbol in low doses( 10to 15mg a day) is enough androgen to fully replace a mans natural level.... i believe i read this in an early article( 1960s era) talking about methandienone or methandrostenolone( same compound two different names. Also known as dbol. So i could see on paper how it could work...i used dbol mast and eq once witbout test because i broke my last vial(test prop) and had to wIt for a new supply and honestly didnt feel any different.. so in the short time i used dbol in place of test it carried me along.. but masteron also could have helped that...who knows..but i wouldnt choose to do that on purpose...at least 100mg of test a week to keep normal levels for functional purposes..lol
That would theoretically work because of how heavily dbol aromatizes. We can function without test, but not without estrogen.
Big problem is, deca cycles last at least 12 weeks, usually more like 16. Who runs dbol that long? Not practical, not advisable.
RustyhookerId dare you to have no test in your system. Lol
We can NOT function without test..... ever heart of the trt section?
It’s the safest androgen
To clarify so there’s no confusion, we can theoretically function with any androgen, and there’s even been trials using other steroids in lieu of test in HRT. “T”RT is just one form of HRT, but it can be a different hormone. But testosterone is native to our systems, we’ve evolved and adapted to use it, and it’s the safest choice. It’s what’s “meant” to be in our bodies. It’s our preferred androgen.
Why, in any circumstance, would anyone consider using anything else? It doesn’t make any sense.
RustyhookerJust didnt want kiddies reading that and learning the hard way. Limp dick, lethargy, body aches, no focus, no sex drive....etc.
I agree but I don’t touch either.I did read some old rags where Don Ross also did dbol/Deca only cycles.He would use whinny for the last four weeks.Doesnt sound too healthy to me,but Don was large.He also died pretty young.
Googled Don Ross and there were some other examples pop up.
Teagan Clive!
Uhm ...
EA crowed are called groupies, not fans. He’s marketing him self to the people with little to no education in the industry. Which is why he’s not taken seriously by any of the real athletes, bodybuilders or even gym rats that know what they’re doing.
He openly teaches people how to use insulin along with IGF or HGH. He is the only moron in this industry that would actually do that, but of course he’s not doing it because he actually thinks it’s good idea. He’s doing it because he sells IGF.
He also openly teaches people how to use DNP and recommends it to everyone.
Clearly if he’s willing to push those two products he doesn’t care about anyone at all or this industry. He just cares about making money. He may be entertaining, but the fact is he’s a piece of shit.
It’s people like him selling and encouraging the most dangerous products that will get steroids a worse reputation.... and even have the laws more strictly enforced.
You woulnt see a lot of that around here. There is a guy running a low test high NPP cycle. He thinks he’s getting bigger but he’s beyond bloated.