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What are the best cutting cycles

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Not planning on starting a cycle for a while but wondered wanted to get some advice on the best cutting cycles out there to cut fat and get lean and cut. Anything helps thanks fellas.

I'm 25
Around 15% BF
Weigh 230
Height 6 foot

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Fire these up brother if you blast some size on............

http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/for-guys-that-seriously...

http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/only-real-men-need-apply

This is hardcore so start steady and work up so you dont puke ok.

ScripthookV's picture

That's insane! I must truly try this haha. I've ate tuna like crazy just because of work related food limitations. Time to pull out the blender once more!

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

heres the pics guys.......... im not seeing those stats listed in there sorry!...... im out.

http://www.eroids.com/pics/pre-first-cycle-0

ScripthookV's picture

He looks about 205-215. At 6' that's pretty normal though.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

What are you trying to say to me...........

ScripthookV's picture

That you are correct, sir. His stats seem way off.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

now he tells us he weighs 215 so yeah ... im head fucked if we dont get supplied with proper stats on the original post lol

ScripthookV's picture

Lol! I guess we were right haha.

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dieselboxer1's picture

Ill go ahead and agree with most of the replies......diet is KEY to cutting, CARDIO is overrated. youll burn 3times more calories doing a leg workout than you will doing cardio for 30minutes at 75% max hr! With that being said your best time to do cardio to get the max effect is fasting cardio in the morning after waking with 16oz of water. The quality of proteins, carbs and fats that you eat will also determine the rate of which you see result....remember LAW OF THEMRODYNAMICS!! basically if you burn more that you consume you will lean up, if you consume more than you burn then you will build mass.
Now as far as cutting cylces and the members on here that say there is no such thing....all I can say to that is LOL!! First I recommend you get your blood tests. At your age your thyroid, sgbh, lipid panel, hepatic levels, creatnine levels should be fine. If you want a detailed description of bollix to run to get you what your looking for pm me

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Before you even attempt to start having a poke at my members you best get some stats up son..... what did you expect to see in here ? maybe a list of cookie cutter cycles that some little kid can copy/paste then pin himself into oblivion when he gets his weekend pocket money...... we have reasons why stages are taken within certain posts and if this dude knows fuck all about diet cutting compounds are the last thing we will offer him........... your last sentence saved your ass but you just put yourself on MOD radar.

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And I workout 4-5 days a week usually 45-1 hour lifting and an hour of cardio running/stairs/elliptical ect

Barabbas's picture

What does your diet look like?

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Right now eating about 2500 calories and sticking to good protein such as eggs for breakfast and lean chicken breast for dinner with protein shades in between and protein bars and always add vegis to my chicken breast. That's pretty much a daily basis I eat pretty healthy. And don't drink pop just water.

Deadlifter85's picture

You should try to eat more whole food during the day if you can. Pack some meals in tupper ware and take them with you everywhere. Never be without a meal or 2 on hand. Reason being is your body has to work a lot harder to break down and process solid food than it does shakes, so you burn more calories through digestion. Bars really arent the hest source of protein either. At least according to big Jay.

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

So eating about six times a day and packing my food. I'm still taking college classes and will definitely start pre packing my food to keep that metabolism going strong

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

2500 is not even enough to maintain 230lbs....................... i smell FISH again?

Work it out guys..... if he is taking 2grams pr lb in protein that alone equals 1840 cals....... so wheres the rest coming from ???..... the guy needs at least 3200/3300 to maintain 230lbs with carbs and essentail fats to keep his metabolism in tune for holding his stated BF%........ something WAY out of kilter here.

I am either missing the point or i need a picture in here ...... 15% BF current on that diet?

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Who said anything about maintaining. He ask me what I was eating now and I told him. I know I'm not eating enough to maintain and I'm not maintaining at the moment I was 230 at my biggest I have lost weight to about 215 give or take a few lbs but those pics were taken yesterday so that is now. That's why I posted to see what the best first cycle would be for me down the road and to hopefully get a good diet plan going and start eating those big calories to get me ready for my first cycle. I'm just looking for some input.

Makwa's picture

I'm kind of confused why you are asking about cutting cycles and now you are talking about eating big calories.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Who said anything about maintaining.

I DID........... i was giving an example of what a 230lbs frame needs to build and hold muscle........ you put the stats up with a body weight at 230lbs..... that was what YOU gave us to work with.

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

So your saying I need roughly 3200 calories to get back to 230 and maintain. What kinda good would you suggest

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Check out the weight gain section forum bro.......... loads of great info in there already to save me typing here all night lol

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Alright will do bro thanks for your help appreciate it!

Barabbas's picture

I agree. Im 200lbs 5'6 and im putting in 5000+ cals ed. 400grams Protein.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

see what i mean bro!..... im pushing 7500 ish to tip over 260 at the moment......... its all mathmatics at the end of the day.

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Added a couple pics bro.

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

I totally know what your saying I have wrestled my whole life and in college and cut weight and gained weight all the wrong ways my whole life and I'm trying to get on a strict diet and do it the right way this time. And the calorie count was a rough estimate.

Makwa's picture

Your diet determines the cut, it is not the gear you use

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Have no previous cycles either. Would be interested in thoughts on a good first cycle as well. Thanks

Makwa's picture

Use the blue magnifying glass up top and research beginner cycle, then post here what you learned

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

And I learned about Adex and taking it depending on your symptoms and how you react to the test. And then as a PCT nolvadex and clomid.

Jakob13foxtrot's picture

Searched first cycles and mainly seen guys doing a first cycle of just test E or test Cyp and doing about 400-500 a week splitting it into two 250 each week was done a lot to.

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