posted Sat, 11/24/2012 - 12:51
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Tren to Test ratio
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So i have jumped back on the tren train and the last time i ran tren i ran tren e at 300mg per week and test at 600mg per week and i got alot of sides night sweats and insomnia the ones that bothered me the most as i work a demanding job and had to stop the cycle short because i was not getting any sleep and was like a zombie. This time around i am running tren ace and test prop at 1=1 ratio so 50mg testp 50mg tren ace ed and i am a week in so far so good but i know its only getting started will update as this cycle goes on. Most people i know run there tren low and test high and always get bad sides so i am kinda excited to see how this will play out runnung them the same
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zewiIMO-- always start tren with tren a and test p for 6-8 weeks to see how you should take it.
starting cycle with tren a test p
1-2 100mg of each eod
2-4 150mg of tren and 100mg of test p --if your still good no sides
4-8 150mg tren and 75mg test p--if your still good you-which IMO should be 2:1 tren to test.
so if you do tren E and test E
your looking at 300mg test E and 450-600mg tren E
IMO 300test e 500 tren E
This is Close to perfect! As he goes along and drops the test dose, he'll start feeing better and seeing less sides. I do anyway
mick118My experience.
High tren low test - my liver figures go through the roof and i start to get a red rash after 5-6 weeks.
High test low tren - side effects were unbearable after 6 weeks and liver figures went up slightly. I was more able to gain weight on this though as test makes me hungry and tren does the opposite.
Not everyone can take tren. It is a very harsh drug. The main benefit of Tren though is you can have a lazy mans diet and still look ripped.
I think you will find that you will have better success with tren ran at a higher level than your test. Test and tren compete for the same receptors and tren being tren always wins.. running the tren higher also for the majority of people tends to alleviate all sides. I ll be interested to see how it works running it at a one to one ratio.
hey grrl so far so good running it at a 1-1 but if any sides appear will drop the test a bit but and up the tren
will keep you guys updated
thats great j .. and don't forget I am quite interested in that as well as gains.
That's exactly what u told me and I haven't looked back since. It's the only way I'll ever run tren. The gains are much more defined in appearance as well. Cardio still goes to complete shit on my last two tren runs but the vascularity improves regardless.
ya my cardio goes to shit to bro
most people find that running it this way works for them .. I know not everyone is the same so there are the rare few who can run it the opposite way and do well.. cardio ..shmardio.. who needs it lol..
honestly though, i never do cardio and i have no problem losing fat when i want to
most people don't have that ease of fat loss. I however, know how to eat and when as well as knowing that simply walking is a great way to stimulate fat loss.
BostonIm running tren for the very first time. I started tren a @50mg ed and prop @ 20mg ed. Zero sides. None. And my mental sharpness was incredible, sleep was amazing and dreams were all good ones. So after 2 weeks with zero sides and minor overall effects, i decided to bump it to 70 ed. kept the prop @ 20mg day. Felt even better and still...zero sides. I had more sides when i ran 750mg of sust solo with a dbol kick. Much more sides. So i have been for the last week running 100mg ed of the tren and bumped the prop to 30mg per day. I look insane and feel like a god. Im dropping calories and bodyfat and maintaining my muscle and getting a little stronger every week. I cant say for sure because i havent ran tren with a higher dose of test, but i havent experienced ANY of the negative sides that everyone speaks about with tren usage. I believe that the people that are getting the sides are running test too high.
Wow sounds great, looks like your getting great results.
your cycle appeals to me because I like the idea of keeping the test at a level just above natural production (like your doing with 20-30mg of prop ed)
Sounds like your getting great results- my question is are you running any AI's at all- none needed right? I like the IDea of minimizing AI's while on cycle it just seems like creating a cycle that eliminates Ai's could produce more consistent levels [of all hormones really].
I honestly want to a similar cycle in a few years (2015-2016). any advice, words of caution, or anything - I don't have a solid question I just really wanted to tell you that this is exactly what I want to run
BostonI feel no need for an AI right now. I do have some good aromasin on hand, but i havent needed it. And i am getting good results. I am using tren to cut up for the ebc. I should be able to compete.
you should be running caber with a 19nor, bare minimum have it on hand
BostonI am sir. Running caber @ .5mg every 4 days. Have been from the start.
thanks for the input fellas
ok so maybe will drop the test to 25mg ed and keep the tren ace 50mg ed and i am running a ai and i do have caber on hand
I ran 50/75/50 of prop/ tren/ mast, but I tagged closer to 1 ml on the tren after a while and that was ed, pinns. You could drop the tren a six or seven weeks on eight week cycle. I didn't, but I went right into cruise dose.
cdaddy7Remember like Roid Noid says the both compete for the same receptor and Tren wins....so goes what happens to all that free test floating around....it gets converted estrogen mostly....best to have that caber on deck and run an AI for sure brother....def low test like Nitti said on the ratio....my add in is I found instead of injecting EOD I switched it to everyday....now of course I halfed my EOD dose and shot it everyday to b clear....it made the difference for me but everyone is different and u have to find ur sweet spot...Good luck bro
1-1 is even pushing it. When I drop the test to less than the tren, I feel better. Test as a base literally means as a base. To keep a healthy test dose while the other compounds work their magic. 200-400mg test IMO. This works well for me. I personally would have reversed the doses you have posted
the first does i put up were from my last tren cycle and i agree the next time i run tren e i will be running the test at like 200 and the tren at 400
Great info here will try this soon.. keep it up people
I'm running it equal right now with the TMT - Tren\Mast\Prop blend and no sides. I feel great!
test amplifies tren sides, and they both compete for the same receptor. In this cycle you will get the least amount of sides the lower your test is.
Tread told me to run low dose of test when on tren and it worked like a champ for me. No sides hardly at all. Happy pinnings brother
shoxingbiceps17x2! low test/high tren all the way!