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Tren to Test ratio

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So i have jumped back on the tren train and the last time i ran tren i ran tren e at 300mg per week and test at 600mg per week and i got alot of sides night sweats and insomnia the ones that bothered me the most as i work a demanding job and had to stop the cycle short because i was not getting any sleep and was like a zombie. This time around i am running tren ace and test prop at 1=1 ratio so 50mg testp 50mg tren ace ed and i am a week in so far so good but i know its only getting started will update as this cycle goes on. Most people i know run there tren low and test high and always get bad sides so i am kinda excited to see how this will play out runnung them the same

Nitti's picture

This is Close to perfect! As he goes along and drops the test dose, he'll start feeing better and seeing less sides. I do anyway

kodiakGRRL's picture

I think you will find that you will have better success with tren ran at a higher level than your test. Test and tren compete for the same receptors and tren being tren always wins.. running the tren higher also for the majority of people tends to alleviate all sides. I ll be interested to see how it works running it at a one to one ratio.

jpal's picture

hey grrl so far so good running it at a 1-1 but if any sides appear will drop the test a bit but and up the tren
will keep you guys updated

kodiakGRRL's picture

thats great j .. and don't forget I am quite interested in that as well as gains.

Carlos Danger's picture

That's exactly what u told me and I haven't looked back since. It's the only way I'll ever run tren. The gains are much more defined in appearance as well. Cardio still goes to complete shit on my last two tren runs but the vascularity improves regardless.

jpal's picture

ya my cardio goes to shit to bro

kodiakGRRL's picture

most people find that running it this way works for them .. I know not everyone is the same so there are the rare few who can run it the opposite way and do well.. cardio ..shmardio.. who needs it lol..

mjunkie's picture

honestly though, i never do cardio and i have no problem losing fat when i want to

kodiakGRRL's picture

most people don't have that ease of fat loss. I however, know how to eat and when as well as knowing that simply walking is a great way to stimulate fat loss.

RangerCycles's picture

Wow sounds great, looks like your getting great results.

your cycle appeals to me because I like the idea of keeping the test at a level just above natural production (like your doing with 20-30mg of prop ed)

Sounds like your getting great results- my question is are you running any AI's at all- none needed right? I like the IDea of minimizing AI's while on cycle it just seems like creating a cycle that eliminates Ai's could produce more consistent levels [of all hormones really].

I honestly want to a similar cycle in a few years (2015-2016). any advice, words of caution, or anything - I don't have a solid question I just really wanted to tell you that this is exactly what I want to run

Roid Noid's picture

you should be running caber with a 19nor, bare minimum have it on hand

jpal's picture

thanks for the input fellas

jpal's picture

ok so maybe will drop the test to 25mg ed and keep the tren ace 50mg ed and i am running a ai and i do have caber on hand

manlytt's picture

I ran 50/75/50 of prop/ tren/ mast, but I tagged closer to 1 ml on the tren after a while and that was ed, pinns. You could drop the tren a six or seven weeks on eight week cycle. I didn't, but I went right into cruise dose.

Nitti's picture

1-1 is even pushing it. When I drop the test to less than the tren, I feel better. Test as a base literally means as a base. To keep a healthy test dose while the other compounds work their magic. 200-400mg test IMO. This works well for me. I personally would have reversed the doses you have posted

jpal's picture

the first does i put up were from my last tren cycle and i agree the next time i run tren e i will be running the test at like 200 and the tren at 400

Sulo's picture

Great info here will try this soon.. keep it up people

Gorillafit's picture

I'm running it equal right now with the TMT - Tren\Mast\Prop blend and no sides. I feel great!

Roid Noid's picture

test amplifies tren sides, and they both compete for the same receptor. In this cycle you will get the least amount of sides the lower your test is.

manlytt's picture

Tread told me to run low dose of test when on tren and it worked like a champ for me. No sides hardly at all. Happy pinnings brother