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+ 1 Tren, Test, Dbol, Winny

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So I know I will get a lot of criticism on this just want to know if anyone has run this- btw I have never gotten any sides on my cycles except getting huge and acne.

weeks 1-16 Test E 600mg ew
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
Weeks 5-12 Tren A 50mg- will try to move to 100mg depending on sides eod
Weeks 12-16 Winny 50mg ed

basically i want lean mass i already eat clean so lets go.

If you think this cycle is stupid or whatever let me know of how i change it up

Thanks

UM

unitedmedal's picture

What about just a Test EQ cycle? Eq to help hunger? is eq worth it?

finafan's picture

Because it is not needed.

unitedmedal's picture

Fair enough I have thought about these points. Ill rethink a short small cycle.

true I am young . I am making gains natty- just not like id like guess patience is key.

finafan's picture

patience is the key to health. If I could give you karma I would.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Good call bro........... +3 for making a mature sensible shout Smile

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Why are you NOT big after 3/4 cycles?.... dont forget eating "clean" and eating for "gains" is a different ball game!......... this is the point where all you young fucks get it wrong and believe more fkn gear is the answer to your dead-stop.

finafan's picture

You are going to need a new liver by the time your 35. There is 0 reason to use this much this soon. What is your cycle going to be 10years from now? things I would change would be to drop everything but low dose test. I would get blood work before I started that cycle. You can get huge off of test by it self. The truth is that you are probable to young and jumping the gun on the whole AAS thing I would bet you need a lot of diet work and maybe a little training pointers.

unitedmedal's picture

FIrst tried that drol at 19. My PCT usually consists of Torem 120/90/60/30 along with DAA.
For my deca cycle I used same pct protocol along with res 100 and prami. I never had bad estro/ prolactin issues till after cycle. I ran arimedex .5mg e3d.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Still don't see why you feel you need AAS. I started a Test only cycle at 19, then didn't touch anything again til your age now, and still have only done 4 cycles. You're 24 and about to go on your 4th. Have you taken any bloods to see where your levels are?

unitedmedal's picture

I took bloods a year ago looked great. Going to get them done before this cycle and after. Guess no one needs AAS , arnold won olympia at age 23- so im not worried about age maybe it will come bite me later.

I have thought about running an EQ, Test, Winny cycle just looking for lean mass now.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

arnold won olympia at age 23-so im not worried about age maybe it will come bite me later.

You're not Arnold, and it probably will. I think you should hold off for a couple years, then Test only other than that I have no other advice.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Age: 24
Height: 5'11
Weight: 196
BF: 14%

put stat in your posts from now on. I see your first cycle was oral only, then your second was a short ester run with oral, then you use a high dose Test with Deca and an oral. When did you start using AAS? What was your PCT like for those cycles, what A/I's have you used? What are you using for prolactin with your 19-nors? Now you wanna throw Tren in the mix. My suggestion stop using and train and eat.