too young for AAS?
i have heard alot about "you are at your peak, you don't need it". and i agree. if you already have high T why use AAS?
im at the age you would consider too young and not ready for steroids because im 22. but i have had blood works done from years of low T symptoms and discovered i have low Test. also i have done ALOT of research on AAS PCT AI and generally everything for a basic cycle and feel i am almost ready for my first cycle.
i know you may not feel comfortable advising a 22yo in to doing AAS but please consider im very mature for my age and have had a good few years experience in the gym.
also why arn't i on TRT if i already have low T? i talked to the doctor and he was very anti TRT for a 22yo and also didnt consider my scores low enough (16mnol or 471ng/dl)
im just looking for suggestions based on what i said would you say im ready? if not i will understand and take your opinion into consideration. but obviously i reeally want to see i am ready.
im sure im gna get bashing but lets see 
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AnonI would try other avenues and if that doesnt help.come back and i will help you with a very i say very basic test only cycle..... but i want you to try an alternative first
AnonYou know ill be honest this is a unique situation and something we dont typically see is. Somebody your age with low T...... and right nolva and clomid is not typically cycled but if it were me i would run the nolva @20 mg and clomid @ 50 mg per day for about a month and get bloods done to see where you are at....save aromasin for later
Thanks ill give it a go, ill post how it goes and the blood results after, thanks again for the advice.
Also would this cycle have a long term impact? Or would it only raise my T when im taking clomid n nolva, because i dont want to go to square one when i stop taking them
Ok thanks monstar, i have some nolva and clomid and aromasin should i try these? If so, how should i structure it, like a PCT? And how long should i take it for?
Sorry to ask but i havn't seen any information on using these products as a cycle before, i've only seen them used for PCT. so i would be abit clueless in how to structure a cycle with them
Take some t boosters. More exercise also increases test levels wait a couple years if you can. If you really feel you need it, we all know people are going to do what there set out to do but at least you have a reason to start early just my 2
BiteyDo you want to pin yourself for the rest of your life? That would kinda suck and starting at 22 is gonna cost you a bit.
It's your choice. 470 is quite low. Those are the numbers of someone in their mid 30s I believe.
Why not try and raise your test levels with a little PCT (except it would just be hormone therapy since you haven't done a cycle).
Try a little cycle of clomid, and maybe some toremifene. People seem to like triptorelin. Injecting for the rest of your life sounds like a huge pain. But I mean in the end it's up to you.
My second blood results were 12.6mnol, thats around 370. And i would inject myself for the rest of my life with NO REGRETS than go through my life feeling like a depressed zombie. Because my levels are only going to get lower.
Ye iv got some nolva and clomid on hand because iv been thinking about doing this myself, but i dont think the results would last so may not be worth doing, i dno, theres not much info out there on running these PCT drugs as a cycle, atleast i havnt seen any.
I got aromasin, nolva and clomid
BiteyYou say that now, but regret comes after. Shit wears you down. I'd just do a 4 week PCT like you'd do after a cycle and see where you stand after that.
If your test levels are still low and you think you're okay with pinning forever then go for it. a true TRT dose is 125mg of test C a week. That'll put you at 6-700ng/dl if you're average sized. Most people seem to do 200 though. If you use Test E you'll get slightly higher levels due to ester weight, but you'll have to inject slightly more frequently.
TRT section would know more than me though.
Had my second blood test = 12.6mnol... Even lower...
your test is low for your age but not too low...are you getting proper sleep? less than 8 hours sleep can account for a 25% decline in test levels so that could be part of your problem. nutrition also is a huge part of keeping your natural test levels up
Ye this is the thing im sleepin n eating and generally living a relaxed life.
Iv never had any luck when it comes to T, i started puberty at 16 (through T injections and doctor) so im sure its linked to the injections.
Your maturity level really has nothing to do with it. It's more about shutting down your natural test production earlier in life which is more likely to cause you problems in the long term. If your test levels are causing you symptoms such as lack of libidos etc you need to push your doc into referring you to a specialist. TRT is not a path anyone wants to go down into the last throw of the dice.
Its also about taking the time to learn how to train and eat well enough so that when and if you cycle you get the most out if it. In my experience the guys and girls that build a solid natural base build better physiques in the long term.
Ultimately it's your body and of course your choice. I've been around here long enough to know most of the time when someone of your age talks about cycling, they'll do it irrespective of the advice given. Just be aware of the risk involved.
3PUMPCHUMPYou said you are mature for your age but your body is still that of a 22 year old and that is what matters most. I would try to avoid trt at all costs especially at your age. Stick to supplements or maybe try some natural test boosters and hold off it will be worth the wait.