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Third Cycle Advice

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I'm 33 years old, 165lbs and just under 18% body fat. Diet is g2g.
Goals: Single digit body fat, Weight 170lbs and gradual realistic gains through out life.

Third Cycle
Weeks 1-3: 200mg Masteron/Primobolan/300mg Test E
Weeks 4-7: 300mg Masteron/Primobolan/400mg Test E
Week 8: 200mg Masteron/Primobolan/500mg Test E

Look forward to hearing some useful input.

Roid Noid's picture

Well bro im gonna tell you a couple things you may not like, the first is that if your 165 and 18% your diet isnt even close to G2G, and im gonna take a leap here and say your training aint great either. Because with those stats there aint no room for muscle, unless your 5'2...Next your cycle is terrible, why are you ramping up and down the dosages? just do 500mg/w test from beginning to end, you can run the mast at 300 and the primo to. As BB said though run an AI such as adex....You need to learn how to eat and do cardio to meet your goals!

smallfry's picture

Thx for a truthful response. What kind of Test e dose would you recommend for a 12 week program on a max cardio routine with calisthenics?

Roid Noid's picture

500mg/w pinned twice, Mon-thur or every 3.5 days. Remember cardio is best when diet is on point, if you dont got that dialed then thats should be your focus BEFORE you do this cycle. when you run your cardio do it first thing in the morn before you eat, I do cardio only when im starving so food is not my source of energy, my body is forced to use fat properties to keep me going! Honestly bro you wouldnt be the first to run a cycle with that high of bodyfat but I highly recommend that you get it down to around 14% to get the best out of this cycle.

Nitti's picture

Are you running test e only or original cycle?

smallfry's picture

Just E.

Nitti's picture

I think anywhere between 400-600mg/wk is ok. But i'm no guru. Thats what i would do

Trenabolic's picture

Do not take mast as a estrogen inhibitor, thats not what it is. Although it will help a little its still not an AI. Skip the mast on this one, if you do go ahead and run it you will not see much of anything at your current bodyfat. If i was in your shoes i would run a test only cycle and focuse on dropping that body fat via diet and cardio.

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smallfry's picture

Bodybuilder, I'm fully decided on dropping the Mast. Got a couple good books by William Llewellyn and read about the idea for Mast as good gear to stack with test for it was developed in fighting breast cancer and so on. I've had this arimidex for a while and need to use it. Should I keep the Test E dosage low to keep sides down? 250mg? 500mg?

Trenabolic's picture

Test e at 500mg is fine, just run it for at least 10 weeks. You can run the adex at .25 eod from the get go and if you still get sides you can slightly up the dose as needed.

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Johnwayne's picture

Ive never used masteron but I believe at your bf% and with such a short cycle length It would just be a waste

smallfry's picture

Johnwayne, Yeah Masteron requires a single digit bf%, that I've read. Was curious as to it being a waste? Utilizing it as an estrogen inhibitor is my main thought process. Would that still be wasting it?

Johnwayne's picture

It wouldn't be enough to stop Gyno, youre still going to want to use armidex or the like to stop excess estrogen. But everyone is different maybe someone that has some hands on with mast can help out.

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Double post

Nitti's picture

Im no expert but isn't 8 weeks a bit short for test e? What kind of feedback are you looking for (cycle, diet, training). You want to gain 5lbs of lean mass and drop bf. I think your training and diet are going to be more important then the gear. The gear will do its job. What does your training regemin look like?

smallfry's picture

Nitti, I was thinking 8 weeks for test e was a little short myself. Feedback I'm looking for is exactly that. Some say to be conservative and to keep cycles around 8 weeks. But,then there are some gear that need more time to work its way into the system. My training consists of max cardio routines 3 days a week and weights 3 days a week. Diet is Paleo and has been for over 6 months now. What did you think about Primo and Test E stacked and dosage? I might hold off on the Masteron.

jpal's picture

8 weeks if using short esters if your using long like you are i would push it to 10-12 weeks