Thinking about quitting long esters... what do you guys think? long vs short?
Soo first off I could care less how many times I have to pin. It doesn't hurt that bad with good gear and if you wanna cry about PIP you are a pussy.
That being said I've done 4 solid longer cycles and a few short ones and made great gains, some better than others but I think I know the substances I like more than others now too. I know how my body reacts to a given substance.
I'm thinking about starting to limit myself to just 8-10 week cycles of things like test p/tren a (pinned ed or eod) so that I can have quicker recovery time and start jumping back on in a sooner time frame which would also help minimize lost gains. I'm still young so I don't necessarily want to put myself on a track for TRT but I think shutting myself down for less time (gonna run HGC so should be minimal but still) is a good thing, albeit more often now.
Anyway, just curious what you all prefer, long vs short? I would think many big guys rarely come off completely and I know my good buddy who competes IFBB physique doesn't really do any long acting esters either.
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Thanks for your input guys.
do it how you like just remember to do blood tests and PCT after every cycle. and leave the tren alone, NPP is a much better compound.
Test p+npp+proviron=greatness. Doing it right now and it's the best cycle I've ever done.
I hate to tell you but your buddy in the "off season" is using long esters for mass and also the first month or so pre contest. it all comes down to what you are looking for. short esters will give you less weight gain,but leaner gains. long esters give you more over all mass. which can also be lean if you control water bloat. it's been proven time and again long esters are best for mass. just my 2 cents
Your 23 and your thinking of doing tren a? I would give that up as a bad idea firstly.
Make sure your doing time on +pct = time off and try and get bloods done.
Post up your stats
See that's why it needs to be a requirement that everyone include stats and cycle history with every post. I just answered his question regarding ester lengths. I totally missed that he was contemplating tren. Really bad idea at his age.
Everybody misses stuff sometimes. Just got to watch your brothers backs
I prefer short short esters because of the flexibility and control you have over them. You pin tren ace and hate it, wait a few days and you're ok. Pin tren e and hate it and you're waiting a couple weeks before it subsides. Bloat is also generally far less with short esters than long. I also blast and cruise which means I can do a lot with short esters on an 8 week blast. 8 weeks of long esters wouldn't amount to much.
What's your typical cruise look like?
I cruise fine on 200mg of cyp per week, usually doctor administered. The length of my cruises varies based on lab results. Basically as soon as the blood work gives me the green light, I start blasting again. That just what works best for me.
Okay gotcha.