test.e, deca, eq cycle
Ok looking for input before I start this cycle have finally narrowed it down to what I think will work for me, and still be in a safe manner.
Im doing this bulk into my contest prep so it will be somewhat of a long cycle. Bodybuilding sometimes Ill have to make a sacrifice.
24, 5'9 180lbs
Splitting this up 3x a week
Mon, wed, sat
1-18 test e 600mg
1-12 deca 400mg
1-16 eq 500mg
1-4 dbol 50mg split twice a day
1-18 proviron .25ed
1-3 npp 100 eod
Exemstane 6.5 ed
Prami .25 working my way up
Depending on how things go I will either pct with clomid, exemstane, tamoxin.
or if my size is what I feel competitive I will have to start my 180-12 week contest prep.
Ok I understand my red blood count will be high so I will be donating blood, having labs done every 1 1/2 months. Also I think motoring blood pressure would be a good idea as well. Calories are starting 3500cal a day and working up with platues.
I've had this cycle work well be for but im adding the eq. Just looking for solid advice.
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Also just got my labs done the doctor just called. Everything is perfect test is good, my estrogen is elevated just a tad bit he said, and rbc is fine, along with progesterone is good. I'd love to post my labs up but don't think the peptide people would like that since its not for human consumption lol
you might want to consider Hcg with this cycle. it would be nice to sub that deca with growth. I understand the comp drive but 30 weeks with deca and most likely tren on the prep will be the end for your natural production.
I have some hcg and considered starting it about half way through.... And I have growth, thought I added that into my post I run 2iu ed of gh and plan to jump up to 4-6 iu when I get my other kits. And yeah I know my natural production is at risk, but gosh dang Its hard to pct when you have your eyes on that prize. Maybe I can do a month pct or something in between, try to not get to fat that way I can shorten my contest prep hell idk.
Let's start with the most important. You need to up your calories. 3500 is not going to cut it. Your protein should be around 300 g.
I would drop the Dbol and substitute testosterone P at 50 mg ed. Why stress your liver if you don't have to especially since you might be going into contest prep and that will require even more harsher compounds. Just so you are aware if you skip PCT on such a long cycle and go directly into contest prep you will most likely end up on TRT. 25 and TRT is going to be haunting you for the rest of your life. Especially when you're 40 plus.
I would drop the Deca and switch it out for NPP. If you run into problems you can bail a lot quicker And you will be able to initiate PCT much faster which is going to be necessary for you based on the length of the cycle.
Up EQ to 800mg And frontload the first week at 1600g.
Make sure you run hCG at 250 IU three times a week for the duration of the cycle it will help with your recovery tremendously.
You going to have to up your AI 6.5 Is not going to cut it. I personally would start with 25mg EOD and follow with bloodwork to make sure that you are in the right range.
Well for me when I lay out my meal plans 3500 is about maintaining, and not adding any unwanted fat that first 4 weeks while my hormones are all kicking in. I raise my ttl cal.40%/40%/20% split By 300-500 every other week. I want to make gains but I hate putting on fat, slow and steady is me ha.
I will probaly use thedbol because i already have it and, personally dont like to pin everyday if i dont have to thats why im using the npp just for a kicker and deca in my eyes is a fairley safe compound untill your doses get in that 600-900 range. Which also is why my ai is low I like to do the exemstane ed starting at a low dose and go up 12.5ed about week 2or 3, exemstane has lots of benefits to it that I think useful in a everyday situation.
And your absolutely right about trt its going to suck but unfortunately I kinda of see it as a good thing don't want to be negative about it. I mean yeah I have to pin once a week or less but I will still be in the gym looking good ha. But I will run some hcg to try to help things out rather safe than sorry.
I,m 30yrs ahead of you bro and only been on TRT for the last 2yrs.... still train everyday and still compete!..... i would love to believe that you also will still be doing this when you hit my age..... IF NOT!.. your comment above is just sad.
I chose to have a life as well, and now have my 3 kids and 5 grand kids to cheer me on.... HOW COOL IS THAT!!
Vitamin-v I 100% agree having kids is a real joy I constantly get my bloods done and even went as far to do a fertility test and im good to go. But I can promise I will be competitive as I age. The gym is not a option! its one of the only things that keeps my crohns in remission. And have been at it since I was diagnosed at 18. So I work hard I feel I must compete its me battling myself everyday in the gym to do better. I will only use trt when its needed. But I'd like if you could pm me if you have any good inside tips related to bodybuilding! I look up to the guys still competitive in the masters divisions truly a inspiration!
:)))
AnonI have 3 suggestions:
-raise EQ to 600
-raise Proviron to 50mg ED
-extend NPP 1 more wk
The first 2 are common thought of min dosages for getting the most out of the compound IMO. Deca being a long ester, I feel like you would have a smoother transition to Deca if you take NPP one week longer.
I believe you are right with the npp 100%, I was running eq at 500 because my bottle is 250/ml, but i can do 600, what the theory behind 600? And also what's good about 50mg prov.? Is that a personal preference , I've ran it low and liked it never have known when to go up with it.