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How long would it take to notice sides from test? A test only cycle. 1st cycle. We'll say a 12 week cycle. Tests c,e,p,sust? And the sides would be gyno, acne, week joints and what else?

Roid Noid's picture

I guess nobody seen my post in red down below. But I will reiterate what I said in PM. You are going end up with very high Blood pressure, and if you have been doing 4 injections a week at 250mg/per injestion. And have now upped that to 250mg/per day you might want to go to the hospital and let them know you will be needing some help here real soon. Cardiac arrest is VERY possible......

onelove's picture

Like i.said last night I did not have my log in front of me
I was at.work.

onelove's picture

I've pinned every other day for 2 weeks. I day 250 sust following pin test e 250. Didn't pin at all over the weekend or the last weekend. Looking ay my log right now. 1st pin 2/22 last pin yesterday. In total 3.weeks yesterday I've pinned 4.test e and 3 sust. Both at 1cc 250. Wife just ed checked my BP and was 110/76. That's the truth.

MedDx's picture

1750mg in three weeks? 1750mg x .77 (loss) equals 1347.50mg. 1347.50mg ÷ 3 weeks equals 449mg/week with 5 different esters that DONT meet your goals, therefore is not warranted for a first cycle.

Roid Noid's picture

In PM you said 1000 just last week. But whatever it's you that will be dealing with it so good luck

onelove's picture

I'm sorry I gave you the wrong info bud. I am. But regardless I was concerned, and that was the concern. Just looking for advice.

robb's picture

For somebody who's been a member for 3 years, questions like this you should have the answers to.
Not having a go but you have had plenty of time to learn the basics at least.

The question is a bit vague, like Makwa mentioned below. Is there a specific ester that you have your eye on?

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onelove's picture

I'm aware of the shelf life of the esters . Well say test e 10-14 days. My question is/was does.it take that long.to notice sides? In my mind you can see sides quicker than that. Ive read about sides. But I haven't seen how short you can see them. Ex. Acne in 2 days bp.day of pin? That's the question.

MedDx's picture

Shelf life and half life are two different terms.

Makwa's picture

Pretty vague question. A lot is going to depend on doseages, pinning frequency, adjusting AI based on bloodwork etc. Do it right and you shouldn't have any of those nasty sides.

Roid Noid's picture

you need to be honest with these people, and to me for that matter. your question doesnt give anybody any idea of what you been doing. All I know is you been pinning 1000mg/w and you asked me if you can start pinning everyday. your in week 3 of your first cycle.

Pale's picture

In my mind I can picture the extreme headache that is building with that rising blood pressure...

MedDx's picture

I get to the point where i want to explain everything in detail, while lookin at the clock, then question myself whether, or not, the info i post is really a waste of time, or advantageous. However, a raging headache that leaves a poor old bloke thinkin..."damn i should have listened, " seems to be a much better teacher that hits home on a personal level....

MedDx's picture

First cycle is one compound only, preferrably test cyp or enanthate...

MedDx's picture

How long would it take to notice sides from test?

It depends on how your body aromatizes, usually week 3-4 on a standard cycle, signs and symptoms of estrogen elevation from TC/TE use will begin to show without any AI administration.

Some of the signs and symptoms are:

-Oily face, sensitive nipples, morning fatigue, acne on face, chest and/or back, sensitive bumps on the tongue, and excoriated corners of the mouth and lips. For me, ankle edema presents with no AI around 5-6 week.

onelove's picture

Thanks. That what I was looking for. Now when taking an ai from the beginning, is it possible to see those signs earlier? I'm on week 3.and have had no sides, to my knowledge.

MedDx's picture

Now when taking an ai from the beginning, is it possible to see those signs earlier?

No. Not unless your AI is underdosed, or the AAS is over dosed, which in your case, doesnt sound like either one, especially if you havent presented with any sides. Technically, you are administering FIVE ESTERS OF TESTOSTERONE for your first cycle, which is absurd.

On another note, its not common practice to start an AI from the beginning, due to the fact of lowering your estrogen level, which inhibits growth. But, what is a common practice in the utilization of AAS is pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork, like Rusty mentioned below. Also,. discontinue the Sustanon, ASAP. And, acquire some knowledge and experience working with only cypionate and/or enanthate ester.

onelove's picture

Not prop but sides none the less would be? Taking bloodwork halfway through. Bloodwork is just going to tell me all my levels, I realize not all sides will be felt and those will come in the bw. But other sides for the tests would be?

cltleo's picture

12 weeks of test prop?????

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Ps couldn't find this in a sticky, I did look Smile