posted Wed, 03/02/2016 - 17:03
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Sustaject and test e?
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Can you run a.cycle using both? Different esters . If so how? 250ml both same day? Separate days?
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Can you run a.cycle using both? Different esters . If so how? 250ml both same day? Separate days?
Thanks guys. I appreciate your time and information. Thanks for being patient. Gonna run a test e cycle. Is a 10 week cycle too short for 1st time?
10 to 12 would be enough. Make sure you get bloods done man this is important bro. And keep an ai on hand to estrogen sides can be a killer!! Good luck!
Next time post up your stats .. I looked on your page tho..
Sust is a combination of short medium and really long esters sust 250 is broke down like this..
30mg Testosterone Propionate
60mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mg Testosterone Isocaproate
100mg Testosterone Decanoate
As a first cycle honestly no run a Test e or C abd see how You react. But when I run my sust cycle I do ED INJECTIONS and I bloods are stable you can do EOD AND BE OK, make sure you have at least 8 injection sites.. Once you get a few cycles under your belt and then jump on a well planned sust cycle its MASS CITY BRO. But take it slow first
Every 3 days is to far apart for the propinate?
How much of the 250 do you pin ED?
As far as pinning both sust and enanthate that's pointless. Use the test e especially of its your first run. 250 2x a week Monday Thursday pin schedule. If that is successful then try sust eod....
250 for both. Its 1st cycle. Started with test e 250 x a week. 1 vial was no good. Source sent me sust as a replacement. Now Its recommend 1st cycle test e only. I have 3 10ml vials of sust and possibly 2 vials 10ml test e. Now I have 3 pins test e in me and 1 pin sust. Goal is to gain as much as possible. And I'm not a young gun either lol. Just looking for advice.
You can but why would you??? I would save the sus and just do 12 weeks test e cycle. Sus does have the fast esters, so its possible to kick start. I would use one or the other. I would think your blood levels would not be stable using sus and test e together. I have only used both individually.
I'm starting to see this Kickstart idea with sust alot what is that about? That stuff doesn't work that way! Yes it has prop and phenyl prop but the amount is so small it would be ineffective to use it as kicker..... I'm just saying sust takes awhile to kick in as well. A kicker should be started with strait prop eod while pinning your long ester for the first 4 weeks. After that drop the prop and continue on with your long ester....
Agreed....i was off the mark telling him about kick start.
agreed. in addition this is a first cycle shouldnt even be talk of kickstart in this thread....+3
I jumped the gun....sorry about that.
Agree I only mentioned the Kickstarter to point out how it should be done properly... I've seen this sust kicker 3 times this week and im just sitting here like what is this shit ...
I don't have enough test e. And I'm not sure the other 2 bottles are good.
anytime i see someone post stuff like this I just think they are not ready to cycle, not planned out, dont want to wait, probably dont have the money to buy the required food if they dont got the required oil. just saying, hope that isnt you
I had bought everything I needed ex. 3 vials test e, hcg, nolva clomid armidex needles. The 2nd pin of test e was in the right glute, I had a knot bigger than a softball and couldn't sit down for over a week. I pm my source and he said this has happened before and sent me the Sustaject. That leaves me with 2 vials test e (no idea if they're going to affect me like 1st) and 3 vials of sust. I'm not trying to front load or anything like that. I'm 33 yrs old and just trying to run a cycle. I've researched for about 3 years now before I decided to go. I've read almost all the stickies searched many topics. Now what do you suggest I do?
Let me fix that. Trying to run a correct cycle.
Find another source bro and go back to the drawing board.
Yep....put the sust away, put the two bottles of test away. And get some more from somewhere else.
Oh and my diet is way better then it has ever been. Planning meals, cooking ahead and eating! I got my wife on board with the diet so $ isn't a problem. Only difference is she's not eating near as much as me ! Lol
Whats your macro breakdown per day???? Diet is key to success bro.
Roughly 280g carb 200g protein 80g fat. I've been eating a lot of deer meat so I don't know the macro for that.
200g of protein is low. I would strive for 300 to 325 grams of protein. The diet part is like an experiment, you might have to make some modifications to your carbs, fat and protein. I find the gym and cycling are the fun part of bb and the diet is more like work. Adjust your macros accordingly.
Yes but not same day how much per week you plan on running and for how long ? Sustaject needs to be eod or at least m/w/f test e once per week will work but ideally e3d to keep stable blood levels