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So im planning to do a test prop cycle at .75mg ed for about 10 weeks ive done three cycles in the past deca/test masteron/test and a test cyp only cycle I got arimidex on hand of course and a enough clomid and nolva for standard pct. I got some input from a few guys on here just looking for any other advice anyone can offer
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I left a comment on ur current pic and u hav a lot of work to do don't touch aas until cut more bf ...... Ur not at 12% or 17% I would say low 20's not recommended to cycle at that bf
Tron10 weeks of pinning every day is going to get REAL old. I only like to use prop as a 4 week kicker of finisher and that seems like a long time to me. The first couple weeks is alright but after that you feel like a damn pin cushion.
Yeah I did the same shit on my test prop and masteron prop cycle 10 weeks even with the multiple rotation spots it sucked ass. I use small needles tho I use 25 guage 1 inch for the quads and delts and 25 guage 1.5 for the glute I barely feel em I use the 21 guage for the draw of course but I change it out before pinning
I don't see any reason with your stated goals, as to why you would want to attempt an ED pinning routine...
Well the main reason I want to do a ed pinning routine which I dont know if it is the same for everyone but a 1ml injection of prop fucks me up especially in the delt the pip has always been bad and I have used pharma grade gear every time. When I do half an ml or .75 its bearable. But my pip is always bad even with cyp I get bad pip.
You need to try a new brand. I'd rather have a little pip one or twice a week with test-e/c than daily pip, let alone the daily risk of infection and scar tissue. Less pinning is always better, especially if it meets your goals, which it does.
I dont think im allowed to use the pharma name on here but they were a high quality lab lol
I dont think im allowed to use the pharma name on here but they were a high quality lab lol
56too.75? Thats 525mg e/wk. If you've done 3 cycles what are you doing trying to do this? Is this the new thing WTF?????
And I stated down below im not a pro im not looking to be on stage or anything im doing just to look good and be happy woth my physique
Less is more man ive never ran over a gram of gear in a week and ive always had good results off the cycle.
U have ran multiple cycles and ur only 25!! Have u gone to get any sort of blood test?? U should go and see before u start
(Edit) drop bf before u start it's too high and please go and get a blood test
Oh just a little background history if you care at all that is. I was 105 pounds before I staryed lifting I got to 185 naturally in two years cause like I said I was a dirty ass eater I ate whatever just to get the calories in I stayed natural for another year made barely an progress a couple pounds small stregnth gains so I went down the aas route cause lets face 90 percent of us are impatient as hell I got up to 235 at one point and ive been up and down ever since.
First I would listen to makwas advice below
Second bro the way u went about things was wrong don't get offended but by u not peaking ur body naturally till ur age ur always going to struggle keeping those gains especially if u eat junk. But again u can do whatever u want u already don't listen to ur dr
Woah I didnt get offended?
Just saying in case if u did
But ur older now hopefully u make wiser decision and ur more patient u shouldn't rush into a cycle just cuz u feel flabby or fatter do as much work as u can off cycle that's when the real work is done especially if u want to keep gains off cycle
Oh okay sorry bro I read that wrong. The only thing im saying is I already rushed into a few cycles im not sayong im flabby im just not as cut as I want to be is. I can drop weight like crazy I lost 8 pounds in one week once before I staryed cycling. I have a little experience with the stuff by no means am I saying im a pro not even close but ive already been down this road. I ordered my test prop cycle and was just looking for a time frame to run it is all I know its a short ester im not exactly sure when pct should be staryed after stopping them but im pretty sure its a week if im not mistaken
Ok gotcha...... So typically short ester are used for 8 wks 10 wks might be too much especially if ur pinning everyday. Do u have enough spot to pin in ur rotation??
Short esters typically clear out in 3days so if ur last pin ends on a Friday start ur pct on a Monday..... What ru using for pct ?? And what's ur protocol??
If u can't see cuts ur too high in bf....,, I followed makwas advice through my off cycle and I'm putting on crazy muscle u would be surprised how much u can achieve which just watching what u eat. So once u get ur diet dialed in ur cycle will be much better trust me
Amd of course I have arimidex on hand I dont have eat to provlems or havent yet but just in case
Okay so I was going to use both delts my quads and the glute .75 mg everyday last time that seemed to keep my blood levels steady but I was only doing .50 mg a day. Im going to use clomid and nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50 which is a standard protocol worked fine for me in the past
Ur pct is fine but again drop ur bf% before u start especially with short esters again patients an hardwork before u cycle will help u keep gains after ur cycle
How much time have u take off for ur last cycle?? Also what was the length of ur cycle??
Last cycle was 12 weeks deca test cyp 500 mg test 250 deca my first time with nor19 so I ran it low great cycle I cut the deca at week ten did two more weeks of the test did the standard pct and that was about 4 months ago I wanna say. ill have to look at my log book I write all the shit down so I can keep track. But I was going to wait a month or so more to start it I bought it now cause I do seasonal work and my income isnt very steady so I order stuff when I can. And I'd like to say thanks for all the advice its been very h elpfull mr. Hustle! Im going to send a request if you dont mind im going to post more pics so you can kinda judge im not flabby by any means im just not happy with where im at everyone says I look good but you know how it is lol
No problem just be patient bro make sure u recover and be safe
I love myself and I love my body enough to know when it's right an when it's not so please read and think about ur health before u do these cycles without proper time off
I will and once again thanks dude
I just had blood test done in may everything was normal I ended my deca test cycle did pct only thongthat was out of whack was my blood pressure whoch os now back under control since I cleaned my diet up ddramatically 110 over 80 was on Friday. My doc knows I cycle he hates it obviously but he always makes sure everything is okay while im on and off. My test deca cycle my levels were over 3000 cholesterol was sorta high but not dangerously high
Oh goals I want to drop body fat. Which 525 mg might be to much for that
I wouldn't even resort to any AAS until my bodyfat was around 10%. It is so easy to drop fat when your BF is in the upper teens that it is just irresponsible and foolish to use AAS to drop BF when it is that high. Pull out the big guns when it gets tough to lose BF and save muscle at the same time when you get around 10% or lower. Until then it is a waste of AAS and no need to sacrifice your HPTA either. Drop your bodyfat naturally with this diet and bring out the AAS when you get close to the single digit bodyfat where the going gets tough.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/your-fi...
Well the body fat im not really sure I havent checked it since October and ive lost 23 pounds since then with barely any stregnth loss. Im lifting the same weight just with fewer reps I can see the top four abs now I just posted the percent it was at last time I checked. Ive learned to stay away from the scale and atuff like that and look at the results cause I'd get so excited about gaining 5 pounds but it was all fat pretty much. The scale in my opinion is the devil
A scale and a set of calipers are your friend though. Can't track gains in LBM or fat loss without them.
Oh I know that but when I staryed I was on the scale three times a day and shit like obsessed with it. I dont think its 17 anymore I had a gut and all that shit im pretty sure it might be around 12 maybe ill have to check it and get back to you on that one I was 225 ish when I checked I looked like one of those power lifter builds. But I have some half ass abs now lol
Both delts both quads blute current stats 5'8 200 pounds bf is high last I checked 17%. And I simply love the prop ester. As far as the time im not sure on so any imput on the time frame would be helpful I know with the long ester I ran em at 12 weeks and cut out the other compound 2 weeks before ending the test.
RustyhookerI've run past 14 weeks on ed pins but I'm pretty used to it over large cc pins. Biggest problem is not having enough pin spots.
Looks like you're going to cut because adding mass while dropping fat is near impossible unless you're super pro on your foods.
8 weeks prop and var with RIGID cutting diet will get you below 12%. You'll definitely need bloods done week 3 or estro or low free test will bite your butt. I'd get a rigid cutting diet from guys like makwa or tony. Catalyst HAS Big Food FORUMS I'd suggest you participate on. You'll throw money in toilet if foods are tight. I came of bad injury and dropped 27 pounds of lard off my ass with foods and simple plan. Honestly test e and var would give more time but it's up to how stubborn you are.
Hmmm well I ordered the prop already so intact late for that I guess lol
RustyhookerBoth delts..Both quads, better pay your health insurance.
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Oh ive seen it man its nasty I just dont know, where else to do it lol
RustyhookerResearch. ..
RustyhookerStats, goals, how many pin spots? 10 weeks too long... why prop?